Engine apparently still pinging.

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04-25-2005, 09:15 AM
Jiggerachi

Engine apparently still pinging.

I think due to the heat, hard driving, & forgetting to use premium at the SCCA event, it appears the engine is still pinging :( I noticed it pinging approching the back chicanes in the 3rd run. Not near as bad as before, but still there.

Now I havent noticed any noise on the street, but then agian I have had premium in it for the last week & half, & havent really driven it extremely hard either.

I dont mind using premium if I end up having to, as it seems to cure it now, but I really want to check the timing isnt wacky.

Does anyone have a timing light that wouldnt mind helping me out this weekend?? I can bring beer or whatever.
04-25-2005, 09:16 AM
tailchaser

Have you Seafoamed it yet?
04-25-2005, 09:20 AM
Jiggerachi

^ A search would reveal yes...
j/k man :P

Yea I ran seafoam, deep creep, everything else, 2 weeks ago. It cured it for awhile, but its back, in smaller form, but still back.

New NGK plugs / wires, new fuel filter...timing is really the only thing I havent done yet.
04-25-2005, 09:37 AM
POS Racing

What is your timing set at Sparky??
04-25-2005, 09:40 AM
Titus

I believe you recently moved to a new place about a mile from me? PM me your number and I will call you when I get home tonight... we can check it in a matter of 5 minutes.

Question.... What year car are we talking about? I think I heard somewhere that the timing marks are different for different years.
04-25-2005, 09:40 AM
sammm

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Originally Posted by POS Racing

What is your timing set at Sparky??

Try to keep up Sparky!

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

...timing is really the only thing I havent done yet.
04-25-2005, 09:41 AM
Kags1969

If it has a crank with two marks, use the leftmost mark....

Chris
04-25-2005, 09:46 AM
POS Racing

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Originally Posted by sammm

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Originally Posted by POS Racing

What is your timing set at Sparky??

Try to keep up Sparky!

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

...timing is really the only thing I haven’t done yet.

Yea I know I saw that, but figured I'd try a subtle method of pointing out the timing is more than likely the reason he is hearing the pinging. He seems to keep missing this as he rehashed the pinging issue yet again. :P :wink:
04-25-2005, 10:01 AM
Jiggerachi

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Im sure the fuel filter is as old as the car, 120k, do you think this could be causing preignition?? Or is my timing off?

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Im hoping it is either my fuel filter or the timing, & since the timing setting are probably equally as old I probably need it readjusted, but im a total n00b on this subject, & dont have access to a timing light.

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Are there any tuneup/meets going on any time soon, maybee someone wouldnt mind bring a timing light with them??

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I need someone with a timing light & some time to kill, who likes beer. Regardless if the seafoam/fuel filter solves my problem, im sure the timing is way out of wack.

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Now all I have to do is change the oil, & do the tranny / shifter / differential oil, put in new shifter boots, set the timing, & she'll be all ready for the autoX season

I keep missing it?? :lol: I just dont have a damn timing light...
04-25-2005, 10:03 AM
Jiggerachi

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Originally Posted by Titus

I believe you recently moved to a new place about a mile from me? PM me your number and I will call you when I get home tonight... we can check it in a matter of 5 minutes.

Question.... What year car are we talking about? I think I heard somewhere that the timing marks are different for different years.

:afro:
04-25-2005, 10:05 AM
POS Racing

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

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Im sure the fuel filter is as old as the car, 120k, do you think this could be causing preignition?? Or is my timing off?

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Im hoping it is either my fuel filter or the timing, & since the timing setting are probably equally as old I probably need it readjusted, but im a total n00b on this subject, & dont have access to a timing light.

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Are there any tuneup/meets going on any time soon, maybee someone wouldnt mind bring a timing light with them??

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I need someone with a timing light & some time to kill, who likes beer. Regardless if the seafoam/fuel filter solves my problem, im sure the timing is way out of wack.

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Now all I have to do is change the oil, & do the tranny / shifter / differential oil, put in new shifter boots, set the timing, & she'll be all ready for the autoX season

I keep missing it?? :lol: I just dont have a damn timing light...

OK so you have asked at least 5 times if it's the timing, what are you waiting for a different answer! Quit talking about it and check the timing for crying out loud! :lol:
04-25-2005, 12:04 PM
Majik

BTW while autozone doesnt rent out timing lights, I have bought and returned one do mess with my timing. Sort of the same thing, just keep it nice.
04-25-2005, 12:06 PM
Titus

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Originally Posted by Majik

BTW while autozone doesnt rent out timing lights, I have bought and returned one do mess with my timing. Sort of the same thing, just keep it nice.

No worries... I live right down the street from him and I bought the autozone special right after the Supercharger went on. We are going to try to hook up tonight.
04-25-2005, 12:12 PM
Jiggerachi

^What he said
04-25-2005, 12:29 PM
MadMerv

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Originally Posted by Kags1969

If it has a crank with two marks, use the leftmost mark....

Chris

Who's left?????
04-27-2005, 07:30 PM
Titus

OK, Jiggerachi left here about 20 minutes ago. He explained that the car was pinging unless he used 93 octane gas. We checked his timing, and it was at 12. We dropped it down to 10 and he is going to see how it goes.

I must say, 1.8s are a lot harder to deal with then 1.6s. That intake resonator makes it very difficult to get a good view, and getting a wrench on the adjustment bolt is even harder. ONE MORE REASON WHY I LOVE MY 1.6! :razz:
04-27-2005, 07:52 PM
altiain

Better yet, buy a '99+ and you won't even have to worry about adjusting the timing. :mrgreen:
04-27-2005, 09:03 PM
Titus

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Originally Posted by altiain

Better yet, buy a '99+ and you won't even have to worry about adjusting the timing. :mrgreen:

Nah.... too heavy! :-P
04-27-2005, 10:17 PM
Treibenschnell

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Originally Posted by Titus

Nah.... too heavy! :-P

:razz: Hehe!!
04-28-2005, 09:40 AM
Jiggerachi

:cheers: HATS OFF TO TITUS!! :cheers:

For adjusting my timing, & more inportantly discovering where all my oil has been going lately. Looks like ill be replacing the CAS O ring soon. I read the DIY on the :batman: board, looks simple enough, I think I could tackle it. Any words of wisdom beforehand??

Oh yea, Titus, after the quick sprint around town in your car, my car feels like crap.
04-28-2005, 09:56 AM
sammm

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

Looks like ill be replacing the CAS O ring soon. I read the DIY on the :batman: board, looks simple enough

I have an OEM O-ring I bought for my '92 that I never used. It's yours if you want it.
04-28-2005, 10:02 AM
Titus

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

Oh yea, Titus, after the quick sprint around town in your car, my car feels like crap.

You underestimated the power of the Dark Side. Soon it will consume you, and you will meet your FI destiny. :geek:
04-28-2005, 10:13 AM
Jiggerachi

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Originally Posted by sammm

I have an OEM O-ring I bought for my '92 that I never used. It's yours if you want it.

Will it fit a 94??

If so, what do you want for it?
04-28-2005, 10:18 AM
sammm

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

Will it fit a 94??

Let me double-check that.

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

If so, what do you want for it?

I want you to take it. :p (Are you going to be at ER this Sunday?)
04-28-2005, 10:25 AM
Jiggerachi

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Originally Posted by Titus

You underestimated the power of the Dark Side. Soon it will consume you, and you will meet your FI destiny. :geek:

Ill never join you, YOUR NOT MY FATHER...NOOOO...AHHHHH!!

Oh hell, who am I kidding, I am powerless against it...
04-28-2005, 10:28 AM
Jiggerachi

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Originally Posted by sammm

Let me double-check that.

I want you to take it. :p (Are you going to be at ER this Sunday?)

Hmmm...I am debating bewteen the ER, or the SCCA @ TMS. I think im doing the SCCA, but if I change my mind ill let you know.
04-28-2005, 10:48 AM
altiain

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

Hmmm...I am debating bewteen the ER, or the SCCA @ TMS. I think im doing the SCCA, but if I change my mind ill let you know.

SCCA isn't until the 15th of May. ER is this weekend. :cat:
04-28-2005, 11:16 AM
Jiggerachi

^Right, I should clarify...I dont really feel like driving to mineral wells & treating the inevitable sunburn / heat exhaustion so soon after last weekend @ Pennington, but ER does put on a hell of an event at Mineral Wells, so we'll see. If I sit this one out, ill do SCCA, if I do the ER, ill sit out the SCCA.
04-28-2005, 12:47 PM
sammm

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Originally Posted by Jiggerachi

Hmmm...I am debating bewteen the ER, or the SCCA @ TMS. I think im doing the SCCA, but if I change my mind ill let you know.

I verified the O-ring is the same in the '92 and '94. I'll throw it in my car...next time I see you (or you see me) it's yours. :smile:
04-28-2005, 07:50 PM
channelmaniac

Do NOT use a socket to take out the long bolt on the 1.8L CAS!!!

Use a wrench! (A ratchet wrench works great)... It's very deceptive. You can get the socket on it but that bolt is long and you may have some serious problems getting the ratchet out.

Other than that the only other hard part is lining everything up when you go to put it back together. It takes patience. Just make sure you look close at which end of the CAS goes where. It looks like you could put it in 180 degrees out, but it won't fit.

RJ
04-29-2005, 06:49 AM
TurboDuane

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Originally Posted by channelmaniac

It's very deceptive. You can get the socket on it but that bolt is long and you may have some serious problems getting the ratchet out.RJ

Don't ya just hate it when that happens. You start with the ratchet, you see you have a problem coming up, but you keep going thinking things will work out...before you know it the ratchets up against the firewall then you realize you can't change it's direction, cause you can't reach the back of the rachet:banghead: