Anyone else considering doing the Tour in Blytheville in October? Since I couldn't make Nat's, this is on my radar, but wondering who else might be going.
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Anyone else considering doing the Tour in Blytheville in October? Since I couldn't make Nat's, this is on my radar, but wondering who else might be going.
I was thinking about it but they just scheduled a work event that weekend.
Good folks but nasty drive. Airstrip course so lots of offsets and slaloms. Holiday Inn express is a good place to stay. I think we will pass this year
Steve E
Same, didn't make Nats so thinking about Arkansas. Pretty far at 500 miles....
It's not a match tour?
Edit: Utah was the match tour. Derp.
I know its a haul, but I think I'm going to go for it. Want to see how I stack-up against some of the national level drivers now that the car is coming together. Might be informative about my plans for next year.
I'm considering going. But don't know if I'll be able to make it for another couple weeks.
Want me to check with Reno to see if he is going?Quote:
Originally Posted by OZMDD
You should just change "national level drivers" to "Greg Reno"!
Basically, yeah. Reno is the benchmark. Other than shocks, our cars should be very close to identical at this point.
Speaking of Reno, is it true he runs the JCW suspension? I was not aware that you could run a base mini with that equipment...
Virtually every option is line-item orderable on any Mini, which is one of the big advantages to a Mini in Street. The JCW Sport suspension is completely different than the JCW car. JCW is like Mazdaspeed: its describes both a car model and a line of go-fast parts.
The S and JCW cars actually come with the same base suspension as a base Cooper. There is an upgraded Sport suspension package (sways, shocks, springs) and a JCW Sport suspension package (same stuff but stiffer). Any car can be ordered with any package from the factory. Same is true of wheels, 15x5.5, 16x6.5, 17x7, 18x7.5.
So long as the car has matching sways and springs from the same package, its legal. (Shocks are open). My car has the same JCW Sport springs and FSB as Reno. We both run aftermarket RSB. I still have stock shocks, he has custom valved Konis. We even chose the same 15x6.5 wheel coincidentally. I'm not sure if he has the e-diff or is open.
The JCW suspension was not line order-able on all minis. Mini added it to the parts book as a factory authorised replacement part for some year models. Also I am pretty sure Greg runs 16" Kuhmos.
I was referring to the 2013 Mini, so the info might not apply to all years as David points out. He was running 15 Kumho's at the MW Pro, but might have changed since then.
So basically you are running a GS (basic Mini) with a DS (Mini JCW) suspension?
Mathematically you should have run a 129.1 at nationals vs Reno's 129.3. So it would have been a pretty dead heat. I'd almost be willing to go to Blytheville to watch you 2 fight it out. Would be fun to watch.
Voodoo math...
Greg is waiting to see if there will be a field so get those minis registered.
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Originally Posted by Steve E
No Voodoo Math needed. Since there were 14 viable drivers that participated at the ER event the week prior to Nationals. It is easy to use those results to mathematically predict what OZ could have run. Using all 14 drivers his time came to 129.095 to 129.104. If you back test the data and eliminate any results with a +/- 2% error rate his time came to 129.080 to 129.072. If you only use the 3 drivers with an error rate of less than 1% +/- and also 3 drivers with years of experience and more likelihood of consistent times at various events (Whitener, Neff & Eberline) his times were 128.957 to 129.136. The math is solid but it does not take into account any environmental anomalies. However considering OZ is our Texas Pitbull I wouldn’t have bet against him. He most certainly would have not finished any lower then 2nd.
Driver Diff Nat'l Time Est Time 59.454 Est % Steider 2.739 64.679 61.201 125.880 131.358 56.715 2.739 4.61% 67.659 64.020 131.679 Madarash 5.597 59.705 56.470 116.175 127.369 53.857 5.597 9.41% 65.326 61.786 127.112 D Whitener 2.519 64.810 59.501 124.311 129.349 56.935 2.519 4.24% 67.556 62.022 129.578 K Whitener 0.488 64.729 61.215 125.944 126.920 58.966 0.488 0.82% 65.260 61.717 126.978 Neff 1.917 65.325 59.990 125.315 129.149 57.537 1.917 3.22% 67.431 61.924 129.356 St Eberline 0.741 65.281 61.611 126.892 128.374 58.713 0.741 1.25% 66.095 62.379 128.474 Mahone -2.553 69.711 66.619 136.330 131.224 62.007 -2.553 -4.29% 66.718 63.758 130.476 Sh Eberline -0.597 70.819 66.237 137.056 135.862 60.051 -0.597 -1.00% 70.108 65.572 135.680 Payne 0.516 66.493 62.957 129.450 130.482 58.938 0.516 0.87% 67.070 63.503 130.573 Parker 0.783 67.018 62.726 129.744 131.310 58.671 0.783 1.32% 67.901 63.552 131.453 McCaan 0.638 67.040 63.078 130.118 131.394 58.816 0.638 1.07% 67.759 63.755 131.514 Marx 0.969 61.759 57.895 119.654 121.592 58.485 0.969 1.63% 62.766 58.839 121.604 Baker 3.829 59.981 57.760 117.741 125.399 55.625 3.829 6.44% 63.844 61.480 125.324 Terranova 0.943 66.023 59.637 125.660 127.546 58.511 0.943 1.59% 67.070 60.583 127.653 129.0949 129.104 Driver Actual Est Time Est % Steider 125.880 123.443 -2.437 -1.9% 122.913 -2.967 -2.4% Madarash 116.175 118.034 1.859 1.6% 116.244 0.069 0.1% D Whitener 124.311 124.037 -0.274 -0.2% 123.574 -0.737 -0.6% K Whitener 125.944 128.286 2.342 1.9% 128.244 2.300 1.8% Neff 125.315 125.257 -0.058 0.0% 124.953 -0.362 -0.3% St Eberline 126.892 127.668 0.776 0.6% 127.591 0.699 0.6% Mahone 136.330 134.037 -2.293 -1.7% 134.037 -2.293 -1.7% Sh Eberline 137.056 129.768 -7.288 -5.3% 129.817 -7.239 -5.3% Payne 129.450 127.956 -1.494 -1.2% 127.910 -1.540 -1.2% Parker 129.744 127.358 -2.386 -1.8% 127.275 -2.469 -1.9% McCaan 130.118 127.642 -2.476 -1.9% 127.580 -2.538 -2.0% Marx 119.654 127.734 8.080 6.8% 127.622 7.968 6.7% Baker 117.741 121.721 3.980 3.4% 120.801 3.060 2.6% Terranova 125.660 127.328 1.668 1.3% 127.220 1.560 1.2% Driver Diff Nat'l Time My Time 59.454 Madarash 5.597 59.705 56.470 116.175 127.369 53.857 5.597 9.41% 65.326 61.786 127.112 D Whitener 2.519 64.810 59.501 124.311 129.349 56.935 2.519 4.24% 67.556 62.022 129.578 K Whitener 0.488 64.729 61.215 125.944 126.920 58.966 0.488 0.82% 65.260 61.717 126.978 Neff 1.917 65.325 59.990 125.315 129.149 57.537 1.917 3.22% 67.431 61.924 129.356 St Eberline 0.741 65.281 61.611 126.892 128.374 58.713 0.741 1.25% 66.095 62.379 128.474 Mahone -2.553 69.711 66.619 136.330 131.224 62.007 -2.553 -4.29% 66.718 63.758 130.476 Payne 0.516 66.493 62.957 129.450 130.482 58.938 0.516 0.87% 67.070 63.503 130.573 Parker 0.783 67.018 62.726 129.744 131.310 58.671 0.783 1.32% 67.901 63.552 131.453 Terranova 0.943 66.023 59.637 125.660 127.546 58.511 0.943 1.59% 67.070 60.583 127.653 129.080 129.072 Driver Diff Nat'l Time My Time 59.454 D Whitener 2.519 64.810 59.501 124.311 129.349 56.935 2.519 4.24% 67.556 62.022 129.578 Neff 1.917 65.325 59.990 125.315 129.149 57.537 1.917 3.22% 67.431 61.924 129.356 St Eberline 0.741 65.281 61.611 126.892 128.374 58.713 0.741 1.25% 66.095 62.379 128.474 128.957 129.136
Get a room!Quote:
Originally Posted by BatoLoco13
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Originally Posted by jrj512
Ah, if only it were this easy. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by BatoLoco13
It's a nice sentiment. But mathematical equations likes this just do not work in the real world.
Someone has a man-crush on a guy that drives a baby blue mini. I think I would keep that to myself if I were you.
No, the Mini JCW is a motor/brake package, not a suspension package. A DS JCW still comes with a "base" suspension, and can have an optional Sport suspension package or a JCW Sport suspension package. The DS car that runs locally has fundamentally the same shocks/springs/sways as a Cooper S. The only difference between that and a base Cooper suspension is the spring rates are specific to the car package (MT or auto, sunroof or no, etc.) I think there are 4 combinations of spring rates in each package, based on how the car is spec'd. I had to provide my VIN to the dealer when ordering the JCW Sport springs in order to be given the correct version of JCW Sport springs for my car. The Sport and JCW Sport sway bars are the same part number across all R56 models in 2013. Dampers are different, but I'm not certain on the distinctions. I believe they are all dimensionally identical.Quote:
Originally Posted by BatoLoco13
So, the main difference between an HS mini and a DS mini is engine power.
Boy lots of jealous betties around here … Geez!Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadtrash
I was just describing OZ driving style …. Like a Pitbull after a toddler.
ftfyQuote:
Originally Posted by batoloco13
Again voodoo math. You can no more compare LSP results on a 6 run 100 degree day to Nats on Lincoln seam sealer glazed concrete.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratt_finkel
.best leave it lie before it turns into how pax is always equal
I think his numbers make perfect sense, and Reno should send me his jacket. ::Banana::
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Originally Posted by Steve E
PAX is the most diluted system ever thought of by the human species.