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I got the dreaded P0402 check-engine code again. I cleaned the intake and throttle-body thoroughly last year (around this time) and it's come back again. There's a ton of posts about that code on the :batman: board. Has anyone else (with an NB) seen this code and have it return on a regular basis? :confused: Seems to be a common issue with '99-'00 models.
Here's the supposed solution - LINKIE
That sucks if this a common reaccuring problem.
Maybe I need to clean my intake and throttle-body soon before I get this code.
Why would it wait almost a year to reappear??? You making your own gasoline?
How many miles have you put on it since last time you cleaned it....:confused:
I've cleaned my upper intake manifold and throttle body the old-fashioned way once, about 2 years ago. I've never seafoamed my car. 105k miles (50k in the last 3 years), and I've never thrown that code.
Makes me wonder... sift through the old threads and compare the inside of your head to mine. Yours definitely had a lot more oil residue than mine. I wonder if dino oil blowby could have gunked something up somewhere?
Can't be more than 5-6K in the past year. From what I've read, it could come back after 100 or 10,000 miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Good point. Now that I'm running synth, it could have cleaned out some old dino trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Some cars seem to have a high level of oil fume bypass. This could be from the PCV valve and or weakening in the engine components such as the rings. Now don't get worried your engine is about to blow, just there is more bypass and that is not going to cause any catastrophic failure. The pressure in your crankcase can get pretty high and the return hose from your valve cover over to the intake can show a trail if you look closely.
Using Seafoam (Horsepower-in-a-can) can sometimes set this code off. This is not the fault of the Seafoam, just the cleaning of the EGR pipe as it returns back into the intake manifold. I personally use Seafoam at least 3 times a year. Its cleaning agent removes a ton of carbon build up, which robs you of horsepower and fuel mileage. If you get a Code after Seafoam, run another can through. Also consider putting a can in your gas tank for injector cleaner.
We sell a ton of this all over the country, plus it kills all the bugs in the neighborhood! If you want to use the Seafoam and do not know how to use it, let us know and we can repost a Step-by-Step.
Gary
That's one thing I haven't done yet to this car is Seafoam it. Should I use a whole can in the intake and another in the gas tank? Should I fill the gas tank up after I dump the can in? Change the oil after xxx miles? Thanks Gary!Quote:
Originally Posted by shuhart1
I would be interested in a seafoam GTG.... Anyone got a good place? The last time I seafoamed it was in my driveway and I ended up with 3 different neighbors in my yard to find out what i had did with one starting to dial 911 thinking there was a fire. :rolleyes: I got less than half the can through and stopped to calm the onlookers.
Yes please! I'd be interested in learning the Trackdog method of Seafoam! :afro:Quote:
Originally Posted by shuhart1
I just did the fuel tank and crank case with the seafoam, the ratio's are on the can...doing both took two cans.
I used the spray seafoam on the throttle Body, all the treatments seemed to work great.
Hope that cures the problem.
If you ever opened up the intake, you would see why this happens! They just run WAY to rich and carbon builds up everywhere. The 99 that used to reside at Granbury started it at 80K miles and did it on and off 'till it went to live elsewhere.
Listen to Gary...SEAFOAM!
The plot thickens....the past few mornings on my way to work I noticed the car was taking forever to come up to normal temp. I just pulled the t-stat and sure enough it was stuck open. Since the car was slow to come up to temp, could that have made it run extra rich for extra long and contribute to the EGR code?
I had a spare OEM t-stat and put it in. I think I bought it right after I bought the car, but never got around to installing it. I did get a couple cans of Seafoam and just got done fogging the neighborhood for the first time. ;)
Success! :cheers: After replacing the t-stat and seafoaming the intake, the CEL went off on it's own today! I still think the t-stat failure contributed to throwing the EGR code.
Sweet! :clap:
Great news!!! :cheers:
Bringing this one back from the dead. In the past few weeks the P0402 has come back twice. CEL went off on its own, stayed off for a few days and came back again. The idle has been dropping more than usual as well lately. I may crack open the intake again and take a look at it.
I found this on the pointy board...seems flakey to me, but I may give it a shot.
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/june2006/techtips.htm
::Rant::Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Cursed P0402!!
I had my 'bout with mine. But now I know why mine is on. (no :cat: )
Give it a try, what can you lose? TCB pricing and reversible.
+1!Quote:
Originally Posted by cone-cerned
Heck give it another Sea-foam treatment while your at it! ;)
Talkin' about jeff_man?Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I cracked it open again and it was noticeably dirty, as was the throttle body. The EGR port was slightly gunked up too. After 2 cans of throttle body cleaner it's sparkling clean again. EGR valve itself was still very clean, but I cleaned it up anyway.
I'm think I'm going to order a new intake gasket and throttle body gasket too. The intake gasket was looking a bit worn around the edges this time.
:clap: very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by randy7601
I just ordered new intake and throttle body gaskets. New PCV valve, hose and rubber seal on the valve cover. Finally broke down and ordered a new slave cylinder too (they got expensive! ~$48 ). New gas cap (current one isn't correct for my car) and some other misc. stuff. ::Banana::
Were you able to solve your Wisaling problem?? ::Clown::