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Well, it ain't pretty, but it looks like it would be pretty kewl for serious off-roading with the family. I wonder if this will affect Toyota's FJ Cruiser sales....
S.
odd.. but I like it!
I saw the new FJ at the autoshow. Its nice and utilitarian like a good off-road vehicle should be. But I have to admit I would prefere something like the 4 door Wrangler. It just looks better and I prefer a solid axle up front to IFS like the Toy has.
I like that better than the current unlimited and it better than the FJ cuz I can't get past that ugly C-piller. It'll be interested to see how this looks with half doors and a soft top. I agree solid front axle is the way to go.
It's a strange looking vehicle... but up until I see both this and the FJ in person, it's hard to tell which I like more.
Thats all nice and all, but who is going to do some "real" four whelling in a 30k truck :cat: . NOT me ::Clown:: I still miss my 79 FJ40 to this day:( .
And where is the winch gonna go?
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be a real dog off-road. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ataim
The highly capable underpinnings of Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X and Sahara models include an enhanced Dana 30 front axle and Dana 44 rear axle – each featuring larger pinion shafts, pinion bearings and axle joints for increased durability compared to its predecessor. Engineered to take on the most demanding trails, the all-new 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon model features enhanced heavy-duty Dana 44 front and rear axles, which also feature larger pinion shafts, pinion bearings and axle joints.
Providing armor for the all-new 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited’s underbody components are three skid plates – protecting the fuel tank, transfer case and automatic transmission oil pan. Two-wheel-drive Jeep Wrangler Unlimited models feature one skid plate to protect the fuel tank.
Four-wheel-drive Jeep Wrangler Unlimited X and Sahara models feature the second-generation Command-Trac® NV241, part-time, two-speed transfer case, featuring a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio. An optional Trac-Lok® limited-slip rear differential provides extra torque and grip during low-traction situations.
The all-new 2007 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon model features an Off-Road Rock-Trac™ NV241 two-speed transfer case with a 4.0:1 low-range gear ratio, as well as electric front- and rear-axle lockers, Active Sway Bar System and 32-inch B.F. Goodrich Off-road tires.
S.
As long as that turkey is your not going to be able to get everywhere a classic short jeep can go.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
You mean there are real, four wheel, capable trucks to be had for less than 30K?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ataim
Not that I think that it will not be a capable off road truck, but rather who is going to offroad a 30k truck?
A few more pics. This is the most interesting thing Jeep has released in a while...
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S.
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Originally Posted by Ataim
Me.
Before I knew better I had bought a 2001 4wd Dodge Durango ($34K). I took it off-raod all the time. Then I decided I needed something I was not afraid to beat on so I got an old CJ and traded the Durango in on a Ram.
Same here... I believe in the utility/purpose of the vehicle and would gladly put it to use!
Sad that a basic truck like these now cost frikken 30k..
I saw the FJ up close at teh dealer and wans't real impressed... the thing is monsterous. IF this starts around teh same price (22-24ish) then maybe.. but not at 30k..
FWIW, they should have put the 4.7L in there ;)
Here it is with the half-doors. Looks much cooler... :afro:
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S.
With the half doors it reminds me of the Old Jeepster Commando.
Yep... The first think it reminded me of was an old Jeepster that my parents had when I was a kid.Quote:
Originally Posted by HudsonHawk
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I bet they sell the hell out of those things. Toyota should be eyeing this one very carefully. I'm sure there will be a big initial run on the FJ Cruiser, but I see something like this Wrangler Unlimited having real staying power in the market.
S.
Now that's neat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Damn Titus your dad has had some COOL cars!
Those lights in the bumpers aren't going to last long out in the rocks.
I was thinking the same thing. Trash the whole front bumper and put something on it that will not crumple at the sight of the first rock.
It's a disease. The Jeepster never did get restored... It sat in the garage until I was 9 before he sold it to make room for the '59 Corvette. After the Corvette, he added a 1956 GMC Suburban Carrier (A rather rare high end pick-up with a fiberglass bed), the 1966 Mustang GT Convertible that I previously posted pics of, a 1963 Studebaker Avanti (with factory supercharged V-8), and a 1961 Bubble Top Impala. He still has the Vette, the truck, and the Impala. The others were sold to make room for and pay restoration costs of several old boats that have become his latest passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpie
It was good meeting him, I shoulda just talked cars with him, instead jumping all over "pump it up" at the b-day party.
So now we know that Titus's dad is cooler than Titus. :afro:Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
S.
I had an 01 wrangler with the 4.0 litre.....it got 12mpg, I cant imagine what this one gets.
Not to mention after 2 years the instrument gauges started freaking out and the transmission started slipping.
I knew they were bad.. but dayum!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Blaze
I get better than that with my old dlifted suburban!
My refrigerator is cooler than Titus.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
::Rimshot: Hey everyone give a hand for 3Bean, he'll be here all week. Try the veal and tip your server!Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Nice! ::Angel::Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
I would hope so... I'm hot... just ask my wife! ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
::Ban::Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
::Ban2::
::Bust2::
S.
She says she is in the relationship just for the money. ::Curls::Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
You know, I jokingly told her that once and she reminded me of how I made $1200 a month working in radio for the first few years we were married. How soon we forget!Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Regarding taking new trucks off-road: I bought a brand new loaded Toyota Tacoma (V6, 4wd, ext cab, all the bells & whistles) for something like $25k back in '95 (certainly comparable to a $30k truck today), and it was covered in mud before the end of the first week.
Amen to that. One of the things that I loved about my Tacoma was the fact that it had steel bumpers. A day of thrashing around in the woods didn't leave them all torn up like plastic or painted bumpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by HudsonHawk
They were also pretty impervious to damage from accidentally running over small trees. Not that I ever did anything like that. :mrgreen:
More like the sweet loan deals he can score! ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
back on topic..
anyone know about how much this will weigh? any clue on a wrangler's ability to tow anything?
Probably around 4,000 lbs. curb weight and 2,000 lb towing capacity. Whatcha towin', Sparky? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by rx7gslse
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nuthin that's anywhere 2,000lbs....Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
I was figuring that with an actual frame and axles it might be higher than that.. Up till now the wrangler's issue has always been short wheelbase... that one is obviously a lot longer.
I'm thinking of something smaller more nimble to eventually replace the suburban.. but it'll need to tow at least 5,000 lbs... (small cars or boats)