Some of their products are appealing, but I just don't trust the quality. I like the new Jetta GLI, the TDIs and Passats. They look like a good blend of function, style, handling and economy.
I don't want to know a VW mechanic by first name.
Printable View
Some of their products are appealing, but I just don't trust the quality. I like the new Jetta GLI, the TDIs and Passats. They look like a good blend of function, style, handling and economy.
I don't want to know a VW mechanic by first name.
Are you a gambler?
My roomate now does with his '00 JettaQuote:
Originally Posted by Mathews2004
Look at VW's (US) market position: they've got the youth demo locked up. A crowd that cares little about quality or reliability, since they'll have to have the next cool thing when it comes out. What incentive do VW have to improve? Spend that money on catchy ads.
Enough conjecture. My wife has one. Well cared for, low miles, 10 years old. Probably comparable to american, but way more trouble than japanese. Seems like a Special Service Tool is needed for every damn thing. (Either forget about working on it yourself, or buy the SSTs and risk talking yourself into habitual VW purchases to justify said SSTs.)
Never again.
But I'm long-winded and a little bitter. Speedracer said it better.
Hard to beat the Japanese cars on bang-for-the-buck! My wife drives (and loves) her BMW. I don't want one.
I'm surprised 3bean hasn't chimed in yet. ;)
What ya need to do is go get yourself a Ford or a Kia or some other sub-par car first, then the VW would seem like a step up! ::Fruity::
BTW. Who at your house would be getting the VW??
I like my VW. 50k miles, lifetime avg 45.7 mpg. Broken to date (other than getting rear ended)... 1 brake light switch. Dropped it off at Boardwalk at 9:30 pm, picked it up repaired at 10:15 pm.
Yeah, yeah... I know my mechanics name, where he lives, his wife, his military background... hell, I was at his wedding. What's more, the compressor he has at home is the one I bought for him!Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
But to tell you the truth, I love my VW. The problems can be frustrating at times but vanity always calls me back. Plus, now that I have a rather intimate knowledge of my Passat, I no longer fear doing the repairs myself.
The SST's are just clever tools for doing jobs (if you're as friendly as I am with a VW tech, it's never an issue borrowing those tools...)
We've got two in our garage right now. A 2004 GTI and a 2001 TT. Both have been great cars with no real problems. The timing belt on the TT was done by a mechanic b/c it involved removing the engine from its mounts and hoisting it up to get to everything.
I haven't had either for that long so don't know about long term reliablity. I did have a window regulator go out on the audi, but it wasn't too big of a deal to pop a new one in.
To reply to what Sammm was saying about bimmers, like his wife, I love them. Also, they are easier to work on/maintain than Vdubs (at least the one I owned).
I sold my Audi S4 right before it went out of warranty--there was no way I was going to own it without coverage. Too many little electrical gremlins. Gf sold her Audi TT for the same reason, except her car was twice as bad as mine.
Ask mr. brg (newbie on here) about his Jetta...maybe he can explain to you why he now also drives a Miata...
My opinion---for the premium that VW now dares charge over its Japanese competition, I can't justify the purchase of one. Mediocre reliability at best (hit or miss), substandard service departments and no comprehension of customer service skills, and below average resale values ensure my money goes to Honda/Acura...
Speed
Yep thats me also. O snap.Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
I was thinking about a new commuter car for Lauren. She teaches at UNT now so she drives about 70 miles a day. The Millenia is at about 80K and doing fine, but something that gets 40mpg would be nice. We also talked about getting her a cheap commuter to rack up the miles on and something fun to pimp around in on the weekends. (no caddies)
The TDIs interest me, plus I like the ability to buy biodiesel.
If I win the lottery, I can get her an e320 CDI Mercedes.
Much better idea. Buy her a reasonably low-mileage late '90s Civic or Corolla to burn up commuting, and something fun for the weekends. Much smarter than buying a new VW imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathews2004
What he said!Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
OK I'm still afraid of VWs! Maybe next decade.
I'm afraid of VWs, too. ::Whisp:: Although that new GTI is sharp...
S.
Heard lots of horry stories about VWs, but the people I actually know that have them are happy with them... minus one guy who had an old Sciorccio (sp?)
The new TDIs are quite intriguing to me... and at about 23, not a bad deal overal either..
You see the recent article in Autoweek about fuel economy!
Link
Heh. Better than mine does... 49 mpg in an AUTOMATIC Jetta at speeds high enough to drop a Prius to 41 mpg... <sigh>Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
I'm impressed that the Vette returned 27+ mpg. I'd love to see the comparable numbers for a Ferrari 360 or a Porsche 911.
Well when the roof flies off, the weight reduction works wonders ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I wish Honda/Acura had some nice diesels to be honest. TSX TDI :D
Well I test drove a VW Passat with the 2.0T this weekend. EPA 31 MPG highway. 300 Mile test drive and I got 36MPG and its a very torquey engine.
:scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by wrxmr2eater
S.
It is a car my wife is really liking. And with mountain roads so close it was hard not to resist the urge to burn someone elses gas.
And the dealer didn't mind that you were gone for eight hours? :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by wrxmr2eater
S.
Apparently not... perhaps I can "test drive" an F-250 for my work day.
I remember when I was younger my dad was buying a conversion van for my mom. They let him bring it home and let her drive it for a weekend to see if she liked it.
No kidding. Maybe I should go "test drive" a Lexus SC430 for the week we're gone to New Mexico in May. :drive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
S.
They are really trying to sell them. If driven at the correct speed 300 miles is a lot less than 8 hours too.
well looks like the reviews are mixed. If I were to purchase one new I would get a Passat TDI. but I would not purchase one new, I would go to auction and get one low miles. They never come through auction, even nation wide. There are a few TDI jettas with high miles, but I wouldn't do that.
Well this one is going through auction this week:
2005 VW PASSAT GLS 2.0TDI WGN - GRAY
13k miles
but look at the note in the comments section:
"Warning - Engin On"
um yeah....pass
Take that light on with a grain of salt... it could mean anything. The only way to definetly find out is to plug a VAG-COM into it and read whatever codes it spits out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathews2004
But at 13K miles?
You could get a check engine light for just not tightening the gas cap all the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathews2004
Bought the ex wife a 02' TDI Golf new, it was great for 2 years, then all kinds of oddball stuff started breaking. It was the 3rd VW diesel I've owned, and it was the worst as far as reliability.
There are few parts sources & you'll end up at the dealership for most of the parts.
Oil changes are a nightmare, engine shroud, belly pan, the oil filter is a bare cannister style system, and VW requires synthetic diesel oil to keep the warranty valid. I did the oil changes & saved $20 each time over the $53 dealership changes (the quickie lube places refused to change the oil on it.)
The MAF sensors are particularly delicate, the engine control systems & sensors on the TDI's mean the legendary durability of diesels is a thing of the past.
When the ex left, she took the TDI, and I can't say I was sorry to see either of them go.
Just remember, you're not just buying a VW, you're joining a cult.
BTW, after it was broken in, the MPG was 39. never broke 40+ MPG, it was an automatic and I did have 16 inch rims from a New Beetle on it.
http://www.tdiclub.com/
For my $, I'd recommend a new Yaris or Fit, pocket the difference in $, and the interest on $12,000 (~$400 annually) you save will pay for your gas over the life of the car....