Kumho V710 sizing & availability

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02-09-2004, 02:23 PM
altiain

Kumho V710 sizing & availability

From the pointy board:

Quote:

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 11:47:53 -0500
From: Rudy Consolacion <[email protected]>
To: mark@scca*******.com
Subject: RE: [evolution-disc.] 245/45R15 V710 will NOT be produced

Mark,
Thanks for sending me the message. Please pass this on to inform the
masses.

Here's a list of sizes Kumho will make in the V710 for 2004. They are also
listed by priority.
1 ) 225/50-15
2 ) 225/50-14
3 ) 225/50-16
4 ) 245/45-17
5 ) 245/35-18
6 ) 285/30-18
7 ) 195/55-14
8 ) 205/55-14
9 ) 215/50-13
10 ) 215/40-16

The factory intends to develop these tires by June 2004 which means tires
available in the U.S. in August and September. There are other factors that
will affect the date that these tires hit the shore such as when our Sales
organization places orders to the factory, raw material availability, etc.
So, August and September availability is optimistic and it is recommended to
have alternate plans if things change.

Rudy Consolacion
Motorsports
Kumho America Technical Center
Akron, OH

Looks like the CSP, ES, '94-'97 CS, and '01+ CS drivers are SOL for most of this season. Oh well, at least you guys will have plenty of feedback from us '99-'00 C Stockers by the time your sizes are available. :P

Iain
(whose 205/50/15 V710s should be here late next week)
02-13-2004, 11:06 AM
POS Racing

Re: Kumho V710 sizing & availability

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

Iain
(whose 205/50/15 V710s should be here late next week)

Did you get your tires???? What do ya think? Any Pictures Yet???
02-13-2004, 11:49 AM
altiain

You realize that "late next week" means next week, right? :P

I talked to Tire Rack yesterday, and they should be shipping out today, so I should see them some time next week. I'll post pics when they come in.

Iain
02-13-2004, 12:16 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

You realize that "late next week" means next week, right? :P

Iain

Well you know I need to flip my calendar over to February! :oops:

I still want a full report upon receipt! :clown:

What does http://www.tirerack.com/tracking/orderStat.jsp the order tracking show?

Mine shows : YOUR ORDER HAS BEEN RELEASED TO THE WAREHOUSE FOR SHIPPING. :D (14" Victoracers)
02-13-2004, 01:45 PM
tailchaser

Mine shows: Ready for mounting at the Discount Tire in McKinney... after some tense moments... Fortunately, another local Discount Tire ordered 205/45/16 instead of 245/45/16 Ecsta V700s and carted them over there this morning... :roll:
02-13-2004, 02:47 PM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Mine shows : YOUR ORDER HAS BEEN RELEASED TO THE WAREHOUSE FOR SHIPPING. :D (14" Victoracers)

Mine says the same thing. Hopefully that means they'll be here next week (shipping from Indiana).

Gonna be a busy week next week - the tires should be in, as should a full new set of rotors and pads, and my new slave cylinder. I might actually be ready to go by the time the season starts! :cheers:

Iain
02-13-2004, 06:30 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Mine shows : YOUR ORDER HAS BEEN RELEASED TO THE WAREHOUSE FOR SHIPPING. :D (14" Victoracers)

It now shows : Order Status: SHIPPED :D
02-13-2004, 10:30 PM
altiain

Slave cylinder, brake rotors, and pads showed up while I was at work, and TIre Rack sent me an email saying my tires shipped. Woohoo! :lol:

Iain
02-16-2004, 09:00 AM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

It now shows : Order Status: SHIPPED :D

And this morning it shows! "Feb 16, 2004 at 07:44 AM On FedEx vehicle for delivery" :D
02-18-2004, 02:50 PM
altiain

Guess what showed up on the big brown truck today? :D

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...55_90_full.jpg

These suckers are HUGE. Here's a picture of a stack of unmounted "205/50/15" V710s next to a stack of mounted 225/45/15 Ecsta V700s:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...55_89_full.jpg

:shock:

The V710s are almost four full inches taller than the "larger" Ecsta V700s. I'll be interested to see how much bigger they are after mounting. They're also mighty darn sticky - can't wait to try 'em out at the S2k event. 8)

Iain
02-18-2004, 03:04 PM
tailchaser

Wear bars. How adorable. Any offense I've already taken by tire banners notwithstanding, "DOT Approved" is such a funny joke.

I look forward to hearing how you like them. Maybe they'll have some for me in time to run them this year.
02-19-2004, 10:20 AM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

The V710s are almost four full inches taller than the "larger" Ecsta V700s. I'll be interested to see how much bigger they are after mounting. They're also mighty darn sticky - can't wait to try 'em out at the S2k event. 8)

Iain

When are you going to get those tires mounted? :wink:
02-19-2004, 10:35 AM
Miatamaniac92

Costco's cheap.

Chris
02-19-2004, 10:50 AM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92

Costco's cheap.

Chris

Don't you need to be a member of Costco?
02-19-2004, 10:59 AM
tailchaser

Yeppers. Gotta be a member. It pays to be a member. :lol: I bet the $40 deal at Iain's place is still your best bet... Most places charge $20 a corner for mounting "outside" tires.
02-19-2004, 11:08 AM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

When are you going to get those tires mounted? :wink:

Hopefully this afternoon, so I can heat cycle them and give them enough time to "breathe" to test them out at the PCA school this Sunday.

Iain
02-19-2004, 11:35 AM
Miatamaniac92

Costco is 9 per tire in Plano. Gary even trusted his VOLK's to em to mount some hoosiers for him.

I dunno how much it is in FW or Arlington. Costco pays for itself with the beer, Mobil 1, and gas savings I get every year.

Chris
02-19-2004, 11:37 AM
tailchaser

Certain indivduals living west of I-35E are loathe to drive to Plano... YMMV at other Costco locations, but were it not for the long lines, I'd probably let them mount tires for me.

Chris is quite right about savings, though... Any one of oil (even cheapskates like me who use Castrol and non-synthetic Mobil), gas, beer or fruit juice easily pays for the membership... Especially if you have one or more cars that suck premium unleaded. In Plano, at least, the gas comes from a quality distributor. Not sure what goes in the tanks in Arlington/Southlake.
02-19-2004, 12:31 PM
Kestrel

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

These suckers are HUGE. Here's a picture of a stack of unmounted "205/50/15" V710s next to a stack of mounted 225/45/15 Ecsta V700s:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...55_89_full.jpg

:shock: How can they be 205's? Where do they measure from... between those two grooves? :lol:

I'm going to have to wait to actually see your tires. Since I got screwed by Mister Tiretail (who shipped me the shorter version :x ), I doubt those monsters will even fit!
02-19-2004, 12:39 PM
Miatamaniac92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kestrel

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

These suckers are HUGE. Here's a picture of a stack of unmounted "205/50/15" V710s next to a stack of mounted 225/45/15 Ecsta V700s:

http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...55_89_full.jpg

:shock: How can they be 205's? Where do they measure from... between those two grooves? :lol:

I'm going to have to wait to actually see your tires. Since I got screwed by Mister Tiretail (who shipped me the shorter version :x ), I doubt those monsters will even fit!

Could you just weld some extra on or exchange it? Thats bad PR after all.

Chris
02-19-2004, 01:07 PM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kestrel

I'm going to have to wait to actually see your tires. Since I got screwed by Mister Tiretail (who shipped me the shorter version :x ), I doubt those monsters will even fit![/color]

Could you just weld some extra on or exchange it? Thats bad PR after all.

Chris

I'm sure Kestrel has tried to exchange it or he wouldn't be using the :x emoticon....

On a happier note I'd bet they are about as wide as the Hoosier Kestrel has now. :wink:
02-19-2004, 01:42 PM
tailchaser

<muted_inner_voice>
I'm sure no one's bothering to point out that Kestrel would have plenty of room to mount HUGE tires if he'd turn the wheels the other way...
</muted_inner_voice>
02-19-2004, 03:22 PM
Kestrel

Quote:

Originally Posted by tailchaser

<muted_inner_voice>
I'm sure no one's bothering to point out that Kestrel would have plenty of room to mount HUGE tires if he'd turn the wheels the other way...
</muted_inner_voice>

Geez, I've gone through this with everyone that I've mentioned this to... guess I missed one.

No, I'm turning the wheels around correctly, and with my 225 Hoosiers, I only have about 1/4 to 3/8 inch of metal left after the hole needed to secure those wheels. I'm sure people won't believe this... nobody ever does :roll: ... but I've had Mr. Wagner (who has a TireTail) look at it and measure his, and he'll verify that my TireTail is shorter -- it is not user error.

As to trying to get a replacement, I've already drilled the holes so now I own this one. It works... it just doesn't have a lot of "extra" rooom. It is still a good product, I just tell everyone to be sure and specifically ask for the larger TireTail if you order one. There was no option when I ordered mine, or I would have asked for the larger one.

And POS Racing, your point about the 710's probably being the same size as my Hoosiers is exactly why I want to see altiain's tires first... I'm thinking the same thing as you are (or hoping at least)!
02-19-2004, 03:34 PM
tailchaser

You should know by now, Kestrel, that I only say that every other week to get your lederhosen in a wad. Did you ever e-mail Sean about it? If you can work something out, I'll courier the swap the next time I go to OKC for an event.
02-19-2004, 03:48 PM
Kestrel

Quote:

Originally Posted by tailchaser

You should know by now, Kestrel, that I only say that every other week to get your lederhosen in a wad. Did you ever e-mail Sean about it? If you can work something out, I'll courier the swap the next time I go to OKC for an event.

Successful lederhosen wadding. :lol: I've had so many people tell me it's "user error" that I'm...ah,er,um... a little touchy about it.

I sent an eMail to him, but never heard back. I didn't demand a replacement, since mine does work, so I guess he just took my eMail as a kind of recommendation. Anyway, for me the TireTail is a short-term (another year or two) solution -- a trailer is the best way to go if you have the room to store it -- so I'm not inclined to make a big fuss over it.

Like I said, I'm reasonably satisfied with the product and think it's a good idea. I just wish he hadn't used my order as a dumping ground for one of his less desireable TireTails. I mean, given the choice between a short tail and one about 2 inches longer on each side, is there anyone in the known universe who would ask for the short one? :roll: Why would he have assumed I was the one individual on planet Earth that really wanted that short one?

So I tell people it is a good product, but clearly and vocally advise them to request the larger tail, so that Mr. TireTail can't try to unload another short one on somebody else...
02-20-2004, 08:28 AM
altiain

Tires are successfully mounted. Total cost was $33.25 from Goodyear. Don't ask me where the extra $3.25 came from - maybe an "aggravation fee" for having to remove 225/45/15 Hoosiers (which they couldn't mount last year, Jon ended up having to go to Discount to have them mounted) and mount these ultra wide Kumhos? They did mention that mounting them had been a real PITA when I came to pick them up.

Anyway, they're on the wheels, and I'll be heat cycling them this afternoon. :D

Mick, if you decide to go again, ask for Mike Lockas - that's who I dealt with. Better yet, pick up the phone and call him before heading down there - if you happen to mention to him you own four cars and four sets of wheels for one of those cars, he might be more inclined to do it for you cheaply. :wink:

Iain
02-20-2004, 08:52 AM
POS Racing

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

Mick, if you decide to go again, ask for Mike Lockas - that's who I dealt with. Better yet, pick up the phone and call him before heading down there - if you happen to mention to him you own four cars and four sets of wheels for one of those cars, he might be more inclined to do it for you cheaply. :wink:

Iain

I went ahead and had the tires mounted somewhere else, the tool working the counter on Monday refused to honor your price even after he looked it up on the computer to verify that was the deal you and Jon had worked out...... :x

No wonder I don’t have any cars in the fleet with Goodyear Tires on them, I had also given that shop a shot on the Cadillac tires, and they lost that project also.

I may try them next time around, but more than likely I'll just stick with my guy.

Did you tell Mike about my adventure at his place on Monday?