Perfect! Now I can make my 2 car garage a 3 car garage

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06-28-2006, 10:31 AM
srivendel

Perfect! Now I can make my 2 car garage a 3 car garage

Dieter Zetsche came to Detroit today to announce some pretty big news... not so much that SMART is coming to the U.S. (that was the worst kept secret of June 2006), but rather that Roger Penske and UnitedAuto Group Inc. will be the one doing the honors.

The SMART ForTwo will be offered in the States starting in 2008, giving DaimlerChrysler enough time to get the vehicle's safety ratings up to snuff. The automaker expects to unload 20,000 units a year -- an aggressive goal given the fact that SMART currently sells 40,000 units in 36 countries per year. The car will go head-to-head with BMW's MINI brand, which will be redesigned for the 2007 model year.

Penske owns UnitedAuto Group Inc., the second-largest dealer group in the United States.

Sweet! Now bring the Cross Blade version too...

http://www.km77.com/marcas/smart/cro...med/3-4del.jpg

S.
06-28-2006, 10:47 AM
Titus

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head-to-head with BMW's MINI brand

I thought that the Smart was a lot smaller than Mini, and focused on economy compared to the performance oriented Mini. :confused: :confused: :confused:
06-28-2006, 10:52 AM
srivendel

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Originally Posted by Titus

I thought that the Smart was a lot smaller than Mini, and focused on economy compared to the performance oriented Mini. :confused: :confused: :confused:

I agree. That line confuses me too. I would think this would take sales away from the YariFit crowd, if anything. Then again, it will be premium priced, so who knows? :scratch:

S.
06-28-2006, 11:08 AM
Miatamoto

If Mini was to build a car the size of the original they could go head-to-head, but the current Mini dwarfs the Smart. I think it's just an ignorant reporter making a statement on something he doesn't really know.

I've seen some Smarts in person, they would make a great city car but I'd be a little scared to drive one on the highways here.
06-28-2006, 01:17 PM
rx7gslse

I see Smart cars down here quite often... they are norwhere NEAR the size of a mini... (at least not teh 2 door one, the 4 door is getting closer)

given that fact.. I agree they'd make a good city car, but you wouldn't last 30seconds on 635 in a frikken SMART car...

(personally my favorite is the pink one emblazoned with Barbie graphics all over the side. I see that one, and it's driver ;) at least a couple times a week)

SMART MODELS LINK
06-28-2006, 01:29 PM
tailchaser

Hey, Matt! Where'd you cut & paste that article from? Give the moron that wrote it some credit, and all!

Interesting differences found by reading the Reuters release as it appeared on Autoweek.com...

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../1508/makeview

Like 40k units in Italy, not 40k units in all 36 countries where Smarts are sold... I'm dying to know where that came from.
06-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Miatamoto

BTW, forget the crossblade, how bout the roadster! Cool car. :drive:
06-28-2006, 01:50 PM
Titus

Well here are some different numbers from this source:

Last year worldwide, Smart sold 143,000 cars, a small increase from the 139,000 it sold in 2004. It produced 124,300 cars in the same period, down from 152,100 the previous year.

And more importantly,

Smart will sell the next generation of its "fortwo" model, which has been popular in Europe. It gets an average of 40 miles per gallon in combined city-highway driving and will sell for less than $15,000. The company says it can get up to 69 mpg on the highway.

I think that price point gives it a much better chance of succeeding than the Zap federalized version that ran in the 20s.
06-28-2006, 01:55 PM
tailchaser

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Originally Posted by Miatamoto

BTW, forget the crossblade, how bout the roadster! Cool car. :drive:

I'll second that.
06-28-2006, 03:58 PM
RX7-2nr

yeah- the roadster- now that is a NEAT car!! autotragic only though
06-28-2006, 04:05 PM
rx7gslse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miatamoto

BTW, forget the crossblade, how bout the roadster! Cool car. :drive:

all 82hp of it!

698cc Turbo 3cyl )

10.9sec 0-100km too.. its' a scorcher! (and yet I can't locate a price?)

there's a dealer about 45min from here here in Tampico...
06-28-2006, 04:11 PM
RX7-2nr

since when were miata guys all about the car with the most power.:confused: :D im sure its still a blast to drive.
06-28-2006, 04:23 PM
Titus

The roadster was discontinued.
06-28-2006, 04:28 PM
Miatamoto

Quote:

Originally Posted by rx7gslse

all 82hp of it!

698cc Turbo 3cyl )

10.9sec 0-100km too.. its' a scorcher! (and yet I can't locate a price?)

there's a dealer about 45min from here here in Tampico...

I'm sure it's still a blast to drive, but if power is a problem, that's what boost controllers are for. Add forged internals, 20psi, and a lot of fuels, should make for a really fun car.
06-28-2006, 04:33 PM
rx7gslse

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Originally Posted by Miatamoto

I'm sure it's still a blast to drive, but if power is a problem, that's what boost controllers are for. Add forged internals, 20psi, and a lot of fuels, should make for a really fun car.

probably makes our cars look like fat heavy pigs too!
06-29-2006, 05:41 PM
RX7-2nr

here a link to a Brabus modified Roadster with a 1.4L twin turbo V6 that produces 168hp and 162ft-lbs.

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...abus_roadster/
06-29-2006, 06:25 PM
srivendel

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Originally Posted by rx7gslse

probably makes our cars look like fat heavy pigs too!

The Roadster has been discontinued. The MG brand might be revived and sell a version of it, but for now it's dead.

It also only came with an incredibly irritating slushbox, so I wouldn't have wanted one on those grounds alone. :(

S.
06-29-2006, 07:06 PM
tailchaser

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Originally Posted by srivendel

The Roadster has been discontinued. The MG brand might be revived and sell a version of it, but for now it's dead.

It also only came with an incredibly irritating slushbox, so I wouldn't have wanted one on those grounds alone. :(

S.

Amazingly, that's already been covered. Trying for a repeat at stupidest post ever?
06-29-2006, 08:05 PM
sammm

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Originally Posted by tailchaser

Amazingly, that's already been covered. Trying for a repeat at stupidest post ever?

That'll leave a mark. :nutkick: BTW Shrivy, do you even own a Miata?
06-29-2006, 08:41 PM
srivendel

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Originally Posted by sammm

That'll leave a mark. :nutkick: BTW Shrivy, do you even own a Miata?

:punchout:

:confused: :confused: :confused:

There's one parked in my garage right now.

S.
06-29-2006, 08:44 PM
srivendel

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Originally Posted by RX7-2nr

yeah- the roadster- now that is a NEAT car!! autotragic only though

Ahhhh... :oops:

S.
06-30-2006, 02:28 AM
icepenguin66

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Originally Posted by Miatamoto

I've seen some Smarts in person, they would make a great city car but I'd be a little scared to drive one on the highways here.

Ya, I saw one driving on 75 near GB last year and damn it was small and I was in the Miata! I don't think there's even enough room to get 2 bookbags in it!
06-30-2006, 06:38 AM
srivendel

The video over at Smart USA's website shows it driving in Dallas, which is sort of jarring. I've heard conflicting reports on whether they'll be distributed nationwide, or just on the coasts.

I could see driving one purely as a commuter car, especially if your commute (like mine) doesn't take you on any freeways.

S.
07-03-2006, 02:36 AM
icepenguin66

hehe, is that Sheky Finch in your avitar srivendel? :lol:
07-03-2006, 12:06 PM
srivendel

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Originally Posted by icepenguin66

hehe, is that Sheky Finch in your avitar srivendel? :lol:

No, it's me and Titus at the June SCCA event.

S.