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http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...si_sedan05.jpg
$500 extra. 60 lbs. heavier. But you do get two doors and a slightly longer wheelbase. I say good on Honda for expanding the market, but I'd rather have the coupe, which should be somewhat stiffer to boot.
http://www.autobytel.com/images/2006...exrrpass34.jpg
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I like the profile of the 4 door a lot better... And just like the coupe looks very Toyota-esque, that 4 door is a dead ringer for a neon.
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Originally Posted by tailchaser
http://www.dodge.com/neon/img/neon_hotspot.jpg
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...si_sedan03.jpg
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I think the Neon looks better. ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
Take out the detail shapes... headlights, grill... the profile and beltline are very similar. It may just be me... but that 4 door screams srt-4.
Strap a car seat in the back and mom can relive those wonderful days of yesteryear when she was crowned the Rice-Princess! ::Curls::
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Originally Posted by POS Racing
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Actually, sedans are typically stiffer because they have smaller door openings. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
True, the M3 sedan that I had was supposedly stiffer than it's coupe counterpart.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I don't believe you. Prove it. ::Rasp::Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
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If Altiain posted it on the internet it has to be true! ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
Do you reallllllly want him to? And do you really think you could wrap your lawyer brain around all of that engineering gobbly gook that Altiain will inevitably spew? ::Clown::Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
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Originally Posted by Titus
Honestly, probably not, I would like someone to explain how something with four medium sized holes in it is stiffer than something with two slightly larger holes in it, especially if the two-hole object has a more non-hole surface area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I'm just trying to learn something here. ;)
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Long story short, it's because the B pillar in a sedan acts as a truss or bracing member across the "hole" caused by the doors. The bigger "hole" caused by a coupe's longer door means less supported structure (more car length where the roof and the floorpan are the only structure). The addition of the B pillar in a sedan – even if the overall “hole” size is bigger because you have more doors – acts to resist torsional and bending loads in the unibody.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
If you wanted a really stiff car, you'd put about 36 2" wide doors on it... but that would make it difficult to get in and out. :wink:
I would guess the 'extra' pillar between the doors on a sedan would make the structure more rigid. ::Teacher: (but I'm a computer guy, what do I know)
That makes sense. I think I believe you now. ::Paul::Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
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The coupe has a B pillar, too, though, so that can't be the answer. I like Iain's "lots of small holes" explanation. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
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Originally Posted by srivendel
It took him 124 words to say what I did in 18. :rolleyes: (freakin' pointy head engineer)Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
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Originally Posted by srivendel
What I was thinking was that we could take your new ride, cut the door in half, fab up an impromptu B pillar and four doors out of two, then go out and test it's rigidity.
Of course, then it be just an uglier Neon.
Thank god!!! I thought you were going to break out the free body diagram and equations, true dorky engineer style! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
I was thinking that, In order to strengthen the strucural rigididy, we weld up the doors to the body and leave the windows down all of the time. Then we increase the stegnth of the car significantly.:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Miatamoto
:clap: LOL, thanks for bringing down the coolness factor of this forum by a factor of ten!