I just noticed that the date changed from tomorrow until the 11th. How many people are going on a regular basis?
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I just noticed that the date changed from tomorrow until the 11th. How many people are going on a regular basis?
I'll probably be there. Tom has an agenda for this meeting, so some input from members might be welcomed on some of the proposals.
Here's the agenda:
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· Registration – Is there a significant change in the number of pre-registered entrants for the remaining events this year? If not, then who can suggest a way to get more people to do so, other than what I mentioned at the last two events driver’s meetings. Any ideas to get people to do this?
· Driver’s Meeting – I will cover the very basic stuff in these meetings beginning with this month’s event, however, I will have a separate meeting again with the newbies and novices immediately afterwards like last month’s meeting. I will also be mentioning the “NO SHOWS” [Chris Jennings - TSS99, Freddie Ortiz – ESP29, Anthony Svada – CSP 121, Tony Accaoui in CSP, Bernie Allen in CSP] for worker assignments as well, and those seven so far that I know of, have had their times DSQ’d for those events and for the year end awards. Plus, we had two in a Corvette at the TMS event that also fall into that category. I want to ensure that in Registration, that we have those names/numbers prominently displayed somewhere so both can see those names and IF they do show up again, I want to be called immediately to the trailer to TALK to them, however, I seriously doubt any of them will show. But, in case they do, I want to make very very sure that they do not get to run without working two heats first.
Also, I will announce that any of those who did not show, if they want to run with us again, MUST WORK TWO consecutive heats BEFORE they can make even one run in their cars, period. If they choose not to do so, then they don’t ever run with us again … unless they want to do what I have mandated. This went across very well at the trophy presentations last month, applauding was rampant, so the majority of folks like this idea.
· October TMS Event on the Road Course –
- Does everyone here on the BOD agree that the basic requirement to run at TMS in October is to to have run at least three events this year, with the SCCA events?
- DEFINITELY do online registration.
- CLOSE registration one full week prior to the event, make very sure it is closed/capped at what number? 175 or 200?
- Remember, this event is the last weekend prior to changing back to regular time. If you are a yearly paid member, you will be required to CALL David Dennis, “IF” and only “IF”, you are not going to make the event that month.
- All yearly paid members will be automatically entered in all events, BUT, again, we need to know if you are not going to show.
· On-Line Registration – For the next October TMS event on the road course, let’s make very, very, very sure it’s cutoff at 200 max, period, no walkups, no additions, no add-ons, no one else, as that is the weekend when it goes back to regular time and we need to be out of there nlt 5:00 pm?
· Trained and Identify Computer Operators – Okay, where do we stand right now Phil with how many trained folks for the timing and scoring? Also, Lauren and John, please make sure that there is no one inside that trailer anywhere near the computer or timers that do not know what or how to do and fix things. Make sure that everyone knows that if there is a constant beeping, the timing lights are not working correctly.
· Timer reliability – Phil Osborne, do we have those new light heads for the timing lights? If so, then we need to make very sure that all the systems work right, BEFORE the August 15th event, which is this coming weekend, since today is the 11th!!! Once again, if anyone that is helping unload the trailer, please be sure that the batteries of any kind are NOT ON THE GROUND anywhere and please, DO NOT LEAVE the batteries lying around, on the ground otherwise.
· Novice Trainers – It is imperative that both Tommy and Kei take turns in each of the four remaining heats to ensure that every new Novice (or one that seems to get lost) has an experienced driver with them to avoid what nearly happened at the first event. Tommy, you definitely need to be around for at least two of the heats please, as Kei was there by himself last event. And both of you please make your presence known to those who might need or want help or a rider who knows where to go and what to do. Just one too many wild ones out there, just too dangerous to allow that sort of running wild on course like that. We can’t afford for Peter’s blood pressure to escalate too high anymore this year. J J J
· Grid – Please continue to remind everyone at the Driver’s Meeting, and have the Grid Marshalls also remind each competitor that leaves for their first runs, to get back into their original spot in grid (or as near to it as possible) to avoid someone trying to take the next run earlier.
· Additional GRID – Peter Fehn will be solely responsible for keeping people out of areas with their cars that they aren’t supposed to be in.
· Class Postings in Heat/Run Order – Lauren & John, “PLEASE” continue to have someone assigned during each heat to either post or write down times on the boards, which is what they are out there for.
· LOADING THE TRAILER – It is of the utmost importance to make sure that we have at least two or three people assigned as their worker assignment to help load the trailer as it is just not fair to Gavin to do it all the time. And, this last event, both Greg and Phil loaded the trailer by themselves while most of us that remained were at the trophy presentations. This event, and from now on, the trophies will NOT be presented until the trailer is loaded and ready to go, period. Only fair thing to do for all concerned and you might actually get more people willing to throw in their hands too.
· Heat Assignment – Please ensure that NO NOVICES are posted anywhere on course by themselves, in grid, etc.
· BODs – Please “continue” to wear your white caps!!!
· HORN – The bullhorn that I purchased can actually be heard across the back part of the lot, so I will continue to use it as such.
· QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OTHER?
I'm planning on being a regular at these meetings, and this one in particular. Some of these hit pretty close to home.
This one I don't like... I skip SCCA events due to the fact that I can not spend all day at a SCCA event and still make it to work on time.Quote:
- Does everyone here on the BOD agree that the basic requirement to run at TMS in October is to to have run at least three events this year, with the SCCA events?
Nuts to that!
Then show up and voice your opinion. Personally, I feel that if there is to be a cap, it should be SCCA or ER events, since they use an almost identical format, and someone who has run with ER three times won't be confused at an SCCA event.
However, I personally don't agree that there should be a Novice cap on the TMS event. Novices weren't the source of the biggest problems at the previous TMS event, and I doubt they will be at this one. One thing I do agree is that there should be a hard and fast entry cap at this event - at all Texas Region events, for that matter. It's not worth it to me to come out for only three runs when we have 200+ people, and that's happened twice so far this year.
Where and when? I'll try to be there!Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
So the meeting is now the 11th?? I'm game!
You know it gets kind of old to keep beating the "Novice Drum" all the time. I don't see them as being the cause of all the problems. YMMV
BTW. Haven’t there now been 3 SCCA events where we have only gotten 3 runs?
A lot of the SCCA problems will dissipate on there own due to discouraged folks not coming back, they go thought cycles and they may be at the verge of decline in participation. Which is not all together a bad thing!
Put a hard cap on the number of walkup entries. I worked registration last year, and the thing that really slowed things down was waiting to mark down the car numbers of all the walkup registrants. There is only one sheet with available car numbers, and the person that is marking them down is also doing the pre-registered entrants. This also added to the confusion that you see at the registration table. We would of course have to announce the change ahead of time, and post it on the website, but this will definately force people to pre-register.Quote:
· Registration – Is there a significant change in the number of pre-registered entrants for the remaining events this year? If not, then who can suggest a way to get more people to do so, other than what I mentioned at the last two events driver’s meetings. Any ideas to get people to do this?
Correct me if I'm wrong But didn't we get just 3 runs for the following events.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
- Event #1
Event #4
Event #5
I know for sure event #1 was only three runs.
5 was three runs too
I know #4 (TMS Road course) was only 3 runs.
Here's the meeting INFO. Unfortunately, it's Wednesday night at 7:30p... right in the middle of my work day.
How many of you kids preregister for SCCA Events at http://www.dlbracing.com/Default.aspx? I have plugged my name in for the rest of the SCCA AX season.Quote:
· Registration – Is there a significant change in the number of pre-registered entrants for the remaining events this year? If not, then who can suggest a way to get more people to do so, other than what I mentioned at the last two events driver’s meetings. Any ideas to get people to do this?
Give it a try it's fun! 8) You can always opt out if your schedule changes!
I did the same thing after last event.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
And Tom doesn't think we listen! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by brock
The problem is that most people are just too lazy to pre-register. The thing that they do no realize is that the line is shorter and moves quicker. Another thing that we can try is to have 2 pre-register lines and one long walk-up registration line. People may start getting the hint really quickly.
I did for the October games after the last TMS event....Quote:
Originally Posted by brock
I've pre-registered for all of the events so far this year.
One thing that would really speed up Registration (and therefore Tech, which can't finish until everyone registers and gets their car to Tech) would be to require ALL entrants to pre-register.
I'm game for it, and I'm willing to suggest it at the meeting. Anyone else in favor?
I'm in support of that. I also support having a low number of walkup registrations availible. Like 25-30.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Tough to regulate, you will always have walk-ups that's the nature of the beast. But if you offered a cash discount for pre-registration just watch how many people would pre-register! Problem can switch around where you get 150 pre-register and then they don't show.Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Why does ER seem to do a better job than SCCA at registration? What does ER do different than SCCA??
1/3 the number of drivers may have something to do with your perceived increase in effeciency :cyclopsa: SPARKY :cyclopsa:Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Good point, but they do seem to get thought registration with less stomach acid than SCCA. Just wonder if they may have come up with a better way.Quote:
Originally Posted by onething
Can I vent my concern by proxy? Would it even matter being that I am not a member?
What ya need to Vent 3Bean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
The fact that they (the SCCA BOD) may try to limit participation in October to folks that have done three or more SCCA events... it's at the bottom of page 1 of this same thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Sorry... :oops: It's at the middle of the first page. :oops:
Kind of goes against what they have on the Texas Region Solo website.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Capping the number of participants for the event is understandable but targeting a certain portion of the participants just doesn't seem correct. Plus I know this guy who wouldn’t be eligible and he has a canopy that I have grown quite accustom too! :lol:Quote:
Who can drive?
Practically anyone and any vehicle is allowed to enter an SCCA Solo 2 event. There are separate classes for men and woman plus a novice class for the inexperienced competitors. Visitors are permitted and no fees are charged for viewing the action, although no seating or other facilities are provided for watching. An entrant must have a valid drivers license and have reached 18 years of age (or have a SCCA parental permission form signed by both parents or guardians). The vehicles must pass a safety inspection and be equipped with seat belts and a quiet muffler.
Ya'll have fun without me.
So who's going? And who'll gripe for me by proxy? ;)
ME!!! ME!!! ME!!! :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
I never get to gripe. :(
I take it you haven't been to a recent SCCA meeting. At last months I couldn't hear half of what was going on, they had us in a room with about 4 or 5 other tables and it was freaking loud. The meeting seemed to go a lot like an auction fast and furious then on to the next topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by brock
I'm thinking I can stay home and accomplish just as much!
Plus we have Altain and Tailchaser at these meetings representing the Miata community, or at least I hope they are! :o
You were half right... I've never been to a meeting ever!Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
Did the meeting location change??