Engine Swap 10/22

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10-08-2006, 10:33 AM
channelmaniac

Engine Swap 10/22

Hey guys,

Still haven't gotten the engines swapped out on the spec project car and could use some help with it. If I don't get it swapped out soon, I'll end up spending the roll cage $$$ on something else.

I'll be working on it on the 21st to disconnect everything and drain the fluids and would like to find some help on the 22nd to swap out the engine/trans as a single unit.

I can fire up the grill or order pizzas, your favorite beer/soda, and fire up some arcade games too. (Pole Position II, Sega Turbo Outrun, Pit Fighter, and Combatribes)

Any takers/helpers? I have tools, air compressor, engine hoist, 4 jack stands, floor jack, and a driveway that will hold 4 cars if you want to make it a tech day. As a plus, AutoZone is less than a mile away.

RJ
10-08-2006, 11:03 AM
Titus

Sorry... I'll be out of town.
10-08-2006, 01:13 PM
Mouglie

i would be game for this but i only work on weekends now...
best of luck with it though.
10-08-2006, 09:37 PM
black roadster

You should be at Hallett getting much needed seat time! That's where I'll be! :drive: Good luck with the swap though. I wish I could help. I'd like to see a motor swap on a Miata.
10-09-2006, 08:28 AM
channelmaniac

Can't get there without getting the car running better! Once I get the motor swapped and the roll cage in, I'll be participating in AutoX, a couple of DEs, and other events to get more seat time.

I also have a couple of resellers that have memberships to MSR so I can go on member days. ;)

Raymond
10-09-2006, 08:37 AM
sammm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titus

Sorry... I'll be out of town.

+1
10-09-2006, 12:32 PM
Tim the Teacher

+1 (Hallett)
10-09-2006, 06:13 PM
icepenguin66

I may be able to swing by after refing hockey.
10-09-2006, 06:49 PM
channelmaniac

That'd be much appreciated if you could!
10-09-2006, 11:50 PM
icepenguin66

Quote:

Originally Posted by channelmaniac

That'd be much appreciated if you could!

You live out in Lewisville right? I'll be done refing hockey at Grapevine Mills around noon. I could lend a hand for a few hours before I'll have to get back to the rink.
10-10-2006, 01:55 PM
channelmaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by icepenguin66

You live out in Lewisville right? I'll be done refing hockey at Grapevine Mills around noon. I could lend a hand for a few hours before I'll have to get back to the rink.

Yup!

Right up the road from Grapevine Mills. It's cake to find the place from there.
10-19-2006, 05:33 AM
cone-cerned

My schedule had freed up. I can come help. PM me with the where and when. See you there.

Doug
10-19-2006, 07:25 AM
HudsonHawk

I can help that day. Do you have high speed internet and/or wifi at your house? I am on call that day and need to be able to get into work if necessary.

Also PM me directions. I live not to far away on Hebron in Carrollton.
10-19-2006, 11:47 AM
channelmaniac

Thanks guys,

Info has been PMed!

I'll be starting around 10am but get there whenever you can. My plan is to disconnect wires & lines from the engine and drain the fluids on Saturday to make things go faster on Sunday.

Raymond
10-22-2006, 07:09 PM
channelmaniac

It's IN!

Whew... We had a few challenges on the way but worked through them. Got the transmission filled with oil and almost everything back together as the sun set. Went to turn the key and wirrrrr...rr..r...

Need to charge the battery. DOH!

That's what I get for leaving it sitting for so long without driving it. Just didn't feel like driving it with the oil pressure issues.

Still need to tighten down the front sway bar and put the outer shift boot back on.

Hopefully I can get the charger on it Thursday and get her cranked up & running.

Thanks to Hudson Hawk and Icepenguin66 for the help today! I'll be happy to return the wrenching favor.

Raymond
10-23-2006, 06:35 AM
HudsonHawk

Your welcome. I actually learned a lot for my future work on the wifes car.
10-24-2006, 05:58 PM
icepenguin66

No problem, hope ya get it fired up soon!
10-27-2006, 07:47 AM
channelmaniac

It's Alive!

And with great looking oil pressure readings!

Got the battery charged and crank crank crank cranks... nothing...

Troubleshooting 101: need gas, spark, air... coils and wires are correct. It's not trying to turn over so check the AFM, CAS, and coil pack wiring. All good. Check fuel... hmmm... strange... looks funny...

Yup.

Fuel lines reversed.

It's funny how much pressure builds up in the fuel lines and how far that little squirt of gas will travel when you pull off the pressurized side. 7 feet from the nose of the car is the garage door. It got hit. Not much gas at all coming out but what came out sure was under some good pressure.

She cranked right up! Now to get the clutch bled and the exhaust leaks fixed (crack in the manifold and one stripped hole in front of the cat) to get her inspected and re-plated... then off to the cage installer!

Thanks again for the help guys!

Raymond

Hmmm... Now that I think about it... I should've have been typing all this from my work laptop with gas on my hands. Those damn detectors at the airport will go nuts from this. ::BaHump::
10-27-2006, 10:00 PM
channelmaniac

Wow... What a PITA.

Have you ever had a clutch slave that couldn't be bled? The slave was clogged up with crap and no fluid would come out the bleeder.

I swapped the slave from the old engine/transmission and ran a bunch of new fluid through the system using the vacuum pump bleeder. Even got the kiddo involved in the repair. He pumped the clutch pedal to get the remaining air out of the system.

RJ
10-28-2006, 07:03 AM
HudsonHawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by channelmaniac

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Yup.

Fuel lines reversed.

Ooops! Sorry about that. I did ask you how they were supposed to be connected.:scratch: Wonder how I go that confused.:(

Glad to hear it is running and that our work was not wasted. And, don't forget to tighten the sway bar. :burnrubr:

John
10-28-2006, 07:40 AM
homerneedspeed

i reversed the fuel lines swapping in a friends engine about a year ago. we fought with the car for about 3 hours before we figured it out since we diddn't have a fuel pressure gauge.
10-28-2006, 11:47 AM
channelmaniac

DOH!

Got the car down & got the exhaust taken care of but discovered... the dang water pump is leaking. I have a spare but #*$(@$#...

RJ
10-28-2006, 12:31 PM
HudsonHawk

Oh man that sucks. Would have been much easier to do it with the engine outside the car.
10-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Mouglie

pull it out again, lol...
10-28-2006, 12:54 PM
channelmaniac

Oh HELL no. It stays in. Easier to get the crank bolt out when it's inside the car. Use the bump starter method.

I already have the water pump and tensioner/idler pulleys. I'll have to go get the valve cover gasket and the belt. URG.

I know what I'm doing this afternoon - after haircuts of course...

If anyone's free after 3:30 come on by. It's something I can do by myself but if you've never done one and want to see what's involved then swing by. I can even hand you a wrench if you want.

RJ
10-29-2006, 12:35 PM
Adam Payrot

I am assuming the water pump gasket you have is metal...

Did you put any silicone on the gasket? I learned that trick fairly early on, those metal ones never sealed properly for me unless I used it. I used a paper one once and it was fine w/o the silicone.
10-29-2006, 06:40 PM
channelmaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Payrot

I am assuming the water pump gasket you have is metal...

Did you put any silicone on the gasket? I learned that trick fairly early on, those metal ones never sealed properly for me unless I used it. I used a paper one once and it was fine w/o the silicone.

Nope... The old pump wasn't very tight and water leaked through the gasket. The pump was still OK but the bearing in it didn't feel all that great. I replaced it.

All-in-all, replaced the timing belt, idler/tensioner pulleys, water pump, thermostat, and spark plugs. Once that was done I set the idle speed and timing.

Thanks to HudsonHawk for the help! We got it all torn down and the water pump installed when he had to leave. I dug out a flashlight to finish up the job after the sun set. I really do need to buy one of those LED bar lights.

RJ
11-10-2006, 12:57 PM
channelmaniac

Well, she passed inspection today!

Now I have to find time to take it to the race shop for a roll cage installation.

RJ
11-10-2006, 04:30 PM
icepenguin66

Congratulations! :thumrigh: