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That's 793whp running on e85 ::BaHump:: Oh, and 11.5:1 compression ::Humpy:: On a previous dyno session, it hit 588hp with pump gas and 756hp after switching to e85. All on a daily driver! (well, he runs a conservative ~550whp on his street tune)
For those that don't know... st00pid is the Honda tuner to go to. His results are simply amazing.
How the hell is that driveable on a daily basis?
The dyno chart starts at 4k rpm and doesn't start making power until 5k.
533 ft lbs of torque steer!
At least he has bragging rights.
No kidding... as a DD with front wheel drive, that would suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
Hondas always suck. They should just stick with being daily drivers.
S.
You guys are forgetting boost by gear ;) K-Pro is such a nice, handy tool :D
http://www.adampayrot.com/dfwmiata/kpross.jpg
At 4500 rpms, he is already making more hp than I am at 7800 rpms... fwiw.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
Exactly. That's why I have two for that very purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by srivendel
Ummm... I think you just answered your own question. Most daily driving takes place below 5k RPMs where the power is more reasonable.Quote:
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You all be hatin ;)
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Not at all... I've got two Honduhs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMonkey
I just contend that if you're gonna spend that sort of coin in go fast parts for a Honda, do it in an S2000.
No matter what, rear wheels pushing the car will always be more fun.
I'm not hating on hondas or Adam.
I like all sorts of vehicles, and appreciate good tuning. I just wouldn't dare try to put numbers like that down without all wheel drive.
I also prefer a driveable car. Especially in the metroplex.
eh, you make do with what you've got. Drive a Type-S or Si and your opinion of FWD will change a bit ;) It is a very capable car in most aspects, until you get to the tight turns (the new Si is probably just as good in these too w/ the LSD). You can't make it a weight issue either, the 06 Type-S is 15lbs lighter than the 06 S2k is. With the extra $10k price-tag, it's a big step-up too. I'd love to throw $10k into my car, no stock S2k would be able to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
With that said, I will build a high-hp car eventually, and it will be RWD. It's a money issue though... for the price it would cost me to build the RSX to come close to competing with the car I want to build, I can build that car, with purchase price of the chassis/body included. In the meantime, a 225whp, ~2700hp (after I do a few things for weight loss) car will do me just fine ::Banana::
You think that kind of car would be crazy to have around here... try Houston. That's where this guy lives. :shaking2:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
But if you did that then you'd have apples and oranges. Throw the same amount of cash into a Stook and you'd probably still be behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
I was only comparing the initial pricing. Straight-line, I'd take $10k in the RSX vs. $10k in an S2k. Ever hear of any high-hp S2ks? I can't find much info; the last time I really looked into it, 300-350 was typical, with 400hp seen here and there. I just did a search and found a few things about 500hp... Traction can be found with the right mods for the RSX, but you can't make up for a lack of hp (w/ mods) on a motor as high-strung as the S2k's is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
Road course is a little different, but it doesn't take much in the way of hp for the RSX to keep up in the straights, and there are tons of suspension setups available. I won't say much about autocross, not enough people compete with (properly setup) RSX's to be able to compare them.
The K20 is a very capable engine. I was surprised to see 700+hp out of them; this isn't the only one out there.
The only S2k that has really impressed me is the Pacman S2000. ITBs and short gearing (to get to 60, he has to shift into 3rd).... Yeah, if I had the money, that's the kind of car I'd want. Then again, the K20 is pretty sweet with that setup too....
Yes, many. I've got at least 10 archived magazines with S2k's with 400-900 wheel horsepower. The F20 is extremely capable with minor bolt-ons, NA built engines, lightly boosted, or all out builds. They are also one of the best looking sports cars on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
I would love to build one for road racing.
I should have said DD S2k's ;)
I don't disagree about the F20 or F22, or the S2k itself. I just find it funny how easily people can start trashing a car b/c it's FWD, no matter how capable it is.
I would rather have a S/C'ed S2k than a turbo, I can only imagine how twitchy it gets once you hit full boost. At least you torque-steer in a high-hp RSX, hitting full boost coming out of a corner in a turbo S2k.... me -> :cat:
Definitely not trashing fwd's. I appreciate what honda has accomplished with their FWD vehicles. I really like RSX's and Integras. I like mini's too.
Capable perhaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
I'm just saying that given the opportunity, most knowledgable enthusiasts would probably take a rear wheel drive vehicle over a FWD.
If I'm driving to work/school and back, then give me my 180K mile, 1993 Accord.
Or a nice SUV! ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
I finally found an actual link to one of those high-hp S2ks...
Inline Pro
They tore the rear diff (solid mounts) while testing at 770hp ::Banana:: They have a pretty good RSX kit too, from the looks of it.
Just adding in the dyno links for the RSX
Dyno 1
Dyno 2
When I drive to UNT and park the Accord, it wouldn't bother to come back and find a new dent in it. If the same happened to the Element, well...Quote:
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After ya graduate go and get yourself a good car! ;)Quote:
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A Tiburon with a SuperCharger...::Banana::
That would be awsome! You teh mang! ::Flag::Quote:
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http://www.edmunds.com/media/2003/se...sc.f34.500.jpg
::Fish:: Holy Carp ... that's the exact car!
Or find yourself a nice X-11!
http://www.geocities.com/citation_x11/x11car.jpg
The first new car we ever had in the family when I was growing up...
http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B28235.jpg
Same color too!
Ah memories....
In '79 Mom got her first hot rod a '79 Camaro Belineta. It was bling bling. Dad traded in in her '74 Monte Carlo on it.
http://www.pjsautolit.com/EBAY/79chevycamaro.jpg
Or your personal favorite...Quote:
Originally Posted by Treibenschnell
http://www.craftbits.com/images/223_main_boxcar.GIF
What is that? A Maytag? Or a grocery cart?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
:D
Check the file name ;)
Boxcar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot
How about you find me a supercharger setup for my Element... that box could use some ooomph. It has meh passing power.
I wasn't referring to the Element ::Clown::
I saw my first Element SC the other day, all black. What an improvement :clap:
Too bad about the no-S/C.... there's always the eBay electric... :D
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But you can see my math, though - ::Teacher: -
Talk of Hondas + "Boxcar" = Element.
True... I was hoping to find a better picture too, but oh well. Mostly it was just trains...
lol, a search brought up a 1/4 mile time for some Elements...
16.6@84
Stock 1.6 Miata's better watch out ::Clown::
Well look at this....
http://images.businessweek.com/autos...ent_inline.jpg
Click the pic
I'd like to meet someone dumb enough to go out and take the Element to the track...Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Payrot