I have been invited to tour Eagles Canyon on Sunday afternoon at 1:30 if anyone wants to follow me up there. The price is $2165.00 to join now with a Junior Membership and questions can be answered first hand by the owner.
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I have been invited to tour Eagles Canyon on Sunday afternoon at 1:30 if anyone wants to follow me up there. The price is $2165.00 to join now with a Junior Membership and questions can be answered first hand by the owner.
I'd like to go up there; but I have to help my friend move this weekend :-\
Maybe it can wait and we can just pick his stuff up off the sidewalk the next day =D
Have a good time. Looks like a good deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Did you notice this:
http://www.eaglescanyon.com/htm/fees.htm
"A driver's helmet must be Snell SA 2000 rated or better."
Wonder if that applies to a "guest"? You might want to check to see if your helmet meets the requirement. Not alot of people have the SA grade.
I could possibly go. Don't know for sure yet. I've looked at their pricing. It's the least expensive and most practical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Are considering a membership Tim?
Would love to go but don't think I can make it.
I have my check ready for them though... ;)
RJ
That's a good question about the helmet. I will be sure to ask "the man"
This is what we a group here should try for divided 12 ways. thats $416.67 per person that wants in (One time fee) plus $20.83 a month after that per person. And whoever does the most motorcrossing stuff should have it in there name and then have the membership willed to the next in line (Just in case you know) And of course one of the twelve could sell his time on the track for a fee if he didn't want to go a certain week ect ect.
PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP
Approximately twenty weekends per year (Friday, Saturday and Sundays). As many week days as the schedule permits.
To include all immediate family members and up to 12 guest passes per annum (a maximum of two passes to be used per month). Free access for family members to all event days, sanctioned races and activities held at ECR. Lock-up garages will be made available according to individual needs on a first come basis.
A one time fee of $5,000 plus 8.25% tax, less 20% discount for membership before the track opens.
Monthly dues of $250 plus 8.25% tax.
Never mind, I'm a retard that doesn't know how to read All of the words :(
To include all immediate family members and up to 12 guest passes per annum (a maximum of two passes to be used per month).
The Junior membership is good for me because as a school teacher I am off in the summer (13 weeks) and can use the weekday price to my advantage and the track is about 45 minutes away with no traffic on the way.
Works for me since I can make my own schedule and have 188 hours of PTO time banked... and new time accrues at the rate of 6 2/3 hours ever 2 weeks. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
RJ
Tim- When you are there, see if he can provide you with a calendar for the first year that shows what weekends and weekdays will be available for the Junior Memberships. It looks like a lot of weekends will be available to the private memberships, but not to the junior members. It isn't clear if the weekdays will be handled this way too. I would also ask for conformation that the junior approved weekends are equally spaced throughout the year. I would hate to find out after paying that they have clumped them in winter and/or the hottest part of summer.
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Originally Posted by Titus
Good questions but where did you get the info on the calendar scheduling???
The fees page states "PRIVATE MEMBERSHIP- Approximately twenty weekends per year", and then states "JUNIOR MEMBERSHIP- Approximately ten weekends per year". I read that as 2 possible meanings-Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
1) 20 weekends a year are for full members only, 10 weekends are for Juniors only, and the remaining 22 are for DEs and clubs that have rented the whole track.
Or more likely-
2) 10 weekends are for all members, 10 weekends are for full members, and the remaining 32 are for DEs/clubs rentals.
I read it as there will be 20 weekends available for Private memberships and 10 for Junior memberships. These weekends will be available for both categories when the track is not being used by clubs and events and there will not be specific usage weekends for any one category. If your a member and the track is open that weekend you can run.
Did that cornfuse you??:confused:
Yes. Which is why I want to see a calendar that tells me when I would and would not be allowed to run. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Yeah I wouldn't expect that junior members get the same prime time weekends as the $5,000, $15,000 and $20,000 memberships do. Also expect that if the grid fills out with excutive, corporate and private members you'll most likely get bumped from running. Insurance will restrict the amount of cars on the track (for example MSR has a 25 car limit). Not that this will be a problem in the beginning but maybe later. Also they seem real vague about what they are offering with statements like "Approximately ten weekends per year". They could do anything they want with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I'd get the junior weekends confirmed before I plunked down my $$$. I'd hate to find out my ten weekends are in Jan-Feb and Jul-Aug like Todd mentioned.
I'd also asked how many guaranteed sessions you get for your junior $100/day. Still if they give you a good selection of weekends it sounds like a really good deal.
But anything above ECR's junior membership, MSR is a much better deal in the long run. And all the cool people are at the ranch. hehe :drive:
You might want to get that clarified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
I read it as there will be 10 scheduled weekends that you, as a junior" member will be allowed to run on. Meaning they decide what weekends the Junior members run. Their most likely not going to screw over the "paying membership" by allowing the "cheap" members the same weekends.
It might be the way your reading it is correct but this and many other statements in their membership rules seems vague.
Thanks for the insight....if you think of anything else post or let me know on Saturday.
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Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Just ask plenty of questions when you go out there. Get the contract and study it carefully (I'd like to check it out) and don't sign anything until you nail down and confirm the details. Several things on their webpage would worry me about what they're actually offering to a "junior" membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim the Teacher
Things like:
1. How many guaranteed sessions per $100/day? (looks like 15 total sessions)
2. Maximum number of cars/session?
3. What is the pecking order* when it gets above the limit of cars/sessions?
4. Confirm the junior schedule (fixed or is it open like you're thinking)
5. Can a junior member bring a guest?
6. Ask how many members have joined in each level. If its weighted towards the junior members might be interesting how this will effect scheduling.
* Like at the ranch if they get more than 25 cars on the grid they'll bump the lower rung members from the session. This has never happen in the 5 years I've been there but nearly happen once on the 1.3 (less cars allowed).
Can't think of anything else right now.
Dunno... One time payment... no monthly fees... daily track fees... I like the payment schedule much better for ECR...Quote:
Originally Posted by 2K Miata
He said anything ABOVE the junior level. If you look at the full ECR membership, it has $250/mo flat dues in place of the $100 per day you use the junior Membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by channelmaniac
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Originally Posted by Titus
Yup... That's why I'm looking at Junior... MSR has fees all over the place. If they had something similar I'd be down there.
It's also easier to justify the new track since it's a lot closer to the house. ::Banana::
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Originally Posted by Titus
Not that I disagree with your overall assessment, but I would point out that the ECR page says "twenty weekends per year (Friday, Saturday and Sundays)", not weekend days. Not counting Fridays (which last time I checked did not fall on the weekend ), That is 40 potential weekend days.
Then again, this is another place where they are not 100% clear...It sounds like they are saying that the track would be available the whole weekend, but they leave it vague enough that they theoretically could let a DE have the track Saturday and Sunday and the members get Friday only as one of their 20 "weekends". I'm would like to think that they would not be sneaky like that, but I have seen enough membership scams to know I would read that contract a few times before writing the check.
Well you could read it as it's avaialble to private members for 20 weekends a year and if you get to drive all three days of those weekends and as many weekedays as permits all for the $250/month fee. That is a fantastic deal. Again I'd like to see the contract before commenting any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
PM sent with my cell #... This afternoon has been freed up and if you get the message in time, I'd like to head up there with ya.
RJ
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by channelmaniac
WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!
OMG! THAT WAS FUN!
The pics on the website don't do it justice. AMAZING course. :D
The one thing that's constant on it are the elevation changes. There are on-camber curves, off-camber curves, blind curves, sweeping curves that have to be negotiated as two turns, and some great straights.
FUN FUN FUN FUN! And it's a lot closer to the house than Cresson.
Tim, Suzan, Todd, and I went out there in our cars and the builder let us go around the track for a couple of laps.
You start down a long straight that crests a small hill then slam on the brakes for an immediate right then left and it gets more fun from there. Off the back straight you go into a set of curves that you have to know are there before you go balls to the wall fast. You crest a little hill at the end of the straight with enough time to see you have to brake hard for a sharp left. After that left you drop down a hillside and see an immediate right hand turn. Carry too much speed and you go off. You swing wide right through the first left then immediately swing left to apex the right hand turn.
The next to last set of turns before the small straight that heads towards the entrance is one where you swing left, apex it, swing left, brake a little, then hard right to apex that last turn before the small straight.
What a blast!
One thing tho... we were on street tires so we couldn't carry a lot of speed through the corners. I had my Nankang Super Sport II's on the rear and some Hankook 106s on the front. My rears held tight. Those Hankooks suck. I got in Tim's car and he had the same tires all the way around and the rear of his car was MEGA slide happy. After feeling that I'll be looking around for different tires when the Super Sports wear out. Too bad they aren't made anymore as they were great tires.
After Tim gets his questions answered (which are the same as what was listed in the thread by various folks) satisfactorily I'll be looking to write that check for the Junior Membership ASAP. :D
RJ
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Originally Posted by channelmaniac
Let the mooching begin!! ::Banana::
I tried returning your call but I expected that you had already contacted Tim.
I wish I wasn't sick so I could have gone ::Cry2::
Hehehehe - I'll be going during the week when it's slower :D
It's nice being able to make your own schedule.
For those with Google Earth, I found it...
Lat: 33°21'51.45"N
Lon: 97°25'36.56"W
I also submitted it to Google Earth as I didn't see any placemarks for it yet.
RJ
This track was GREAT!!!
You could try to upload it to utube for hosting then post a link on the forum :)
the track doesn't look like it'd be very friendly if you got off the road a little bit o_0
Perhaps the offs aren't finished yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by MiataMike
There is not a single fixed building up yet. The track siding needs graded and the offs prepared but the elevation changes are incredible. Look at the first pic in the first post and you can see where the second video was aimed at.
The owner was not there so it looks like another trip to get a look at the contract. I am also going to email the questions brought up in the previous posts.
Don't misunderstand what I was saying I just meant that the way it looked currently could be bad if you got off road a little bit. I do think the track looks awsome. I looked at it on paper; and it looks similar to another track that is currently raced (Even though I'm unsure of which one). It looks really technical in a lot of ways, and in otherways it looks like you'd need a little more power in your car to climb those hills and get into some speed around the other corners
I found myself more limited by the silver slug parked on my nose then my tires. ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by channelmaniac
Boy, do I know that feeling of having to brake early for a bumblebee... ::Banana::Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus