Honda CR-V or Toyota RAV4

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03-07-2007, 10:18 AM
sammm

Honda CR-V or Toyota RAV4

As far as small 2007 SUV's go, these 2 are probably the top choices.

CR-V
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/...WD_34FRONT.jpg

RAV4

http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicle...or/photo_3.jpg
03-07-2007, 10:23 AM
altiain

Given the transfer case issues with Bean's Element and my CR-V (which share the same drivetrain), I'd have to give the nod to the RAV4. Besides, you can get a much more powerful engine in the RAV4.
03-07-2007, 10:28 AM
Radio-Active

Given the issues with the transmissions on my previous Honda Civic and my Cousins Oddesy, I would have to shy away from anything honda right now.

Why not a Mazda CX-7 TURBO:D
03-07-2007, 10:31 AM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio-Active

Given the issues with the transmissions on my previous Honda Civic and my Cousins Oddesy, I would have to shy away from anything honda right now.

Why not a Mazda CX-7 TURBO:D

+1
03-07-2007, 10:36 AM
Titus

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Originally Posted by Radio-Active

Why not a Mazda CX-7 TURBO:D

Yep... good comparison here.
03-07-2007, 10:37 AM
POS Racing

Toyota Rocks! 27,000 hard miles on my 4Runner and it's never back to the dealer for anything but oil changes and tire rotations, and has been averaging 20mpg during it's stay with me! ::Banana::

The New Highlander is also very nice if your need a bit bigger SUV.

VVT-i Baby! :burnrubr:

Ya finally going to get rid of that little red sports car and get yourself something a bit more age appropriate? ::GottaRun
03-07-2007, 10:40 AM
sammm

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Ya finally going to get rid of that little red sports car and get yourself something a bit more age appropriate? ::GottaRun

:clap: cute ...actually looking at replacement vee-hickles for the wife.
03-07-2007, 10:42 AM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radio-Active

Given the issues with the transmissions on my previous Honda Civic and my Cousins Oddesy, I would have to shy away from anything honda right now.

Come to think of it, my '98 Prelude got a new tranny @ 28k miles, and my '00 Accord got one at 78k miles. Can't say I've had great luck Honda products in the last decade. :punchout:

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Originally Posted by Radio-Active

Why not a Mazda CX-7 TURBO:D

We've thought about replacing our CR-V with either a 4Runner, a Highlander, or a CX-9.
03-07-2007, 10:45 AM
sammm

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Originally Posted by Radio-Active

::Blah:: Mazda CX-7 TURBO

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

::Blah:: Mazda CX-7 TURBO

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Originally Posted by Titus

::Blah:: Mazda CX-7 TURBO

The RAV4 has a V6 option @ 269HP. The CX-7 Turbo is 'only' 244HP.
03-07-2007, 10:46 AM
Titus

I should add that we have been VERY happy with the Murano... 35k miles so far... never had a warranty claim. Also love the CVT, and will continue to as long as it is under warranty... then I'm sellin' it! :D

A point of note...While the CX-7 and Murano look a lot alike, it should be noted that the Murano feels a lot bigger inside.
03-07-2007, 10:49 AM
tailchaser

I'm gonna have to give the nod to the Toyo
03-07-2007, 10:52 AM
Titus

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammm

The RAV4 has a V6 option @ 269HP. The CX-7 Turbo is 'only' 244HP.

Yeah, and our Murano has a 245 HP V6 and I think it has too much power. Me no likey torque steer. I would have happily traded 30 hp for a little better gas mileage. If you ain't racing it and you ain't towing something, the HP wars become a little pointless to me.
03-07-2007, 10:53 AM
MiataMike

CX-7

Slalom (mph):
63.6Skid Pad (g-force): 0.79
Thats pretty solid for an SUV.

The only down side I saw in the review Titus posted is that there isn't as much storage capacity for the CX-7, which wasn't all that much smaller. 30-59 cubic inches compared to 35-80 cubic inches. The other thing is offroard capability, for all practical purposes who really goes offroad, and if you did and were serious about it, you wouldn't be in any of the 3 vehicles in that review. All I can say is that if I was forced to own an SUV I would want one that could handle better, if storage capacity wasn't an issue. And if it is you
03-07-2007, 10:54 AM
jrj512

Oh, no, we're losing Sammm (or Mrs. Sammm, I guess) to the SUV dark side.

If you must, then I also like the CX-7 idea.
03-07-2007, 11:00 AM
POS Racing

Snip from an Edmonds writeup on the CX-7 (aka. Edge) : "The Toyota delivers better observed fuel economy — 19 mpg compared to the 16.6 we measured in the Mazda. Oh, and the RAV does all that on regular unleaded, while the CX-7 needs premium."
03-07-2007, 11:02 AM
MiataMike

Also on a side note. The CX-7 is the only one that has rollover protection as standard equipment. As well as it out performs in the crash test, ect.

Santa Fe Front Airbags:StandardSide Airbags:Standard dual frontHead Airbags:Standard front, rear and third rowAntilock Brakes:4-wheel ABSElectronic Brake Enhancements:Electronic brakeforce distributionTraction Control:StandardStability Control:StandardRollover Protection:Not AvailableEmergency Assistance System:Not AvailableNHTSA Crash Test Driver:Not TestedNHTSA Crash Test Passenger:Not TestedNHTSA Crash Test Side Front:Not TestedNHTSA Crash Test Side Rear:Not TestedNHTSA Rollover:Not TestedIIHS Offset:Good
Rav4
Safety Information: Front Airbags:StandardSide Airbags:Optional side airbagsHead Airbags:Optional head airbagsAntilock Brakes:4-wheel ABSElectronic Brake Enhancements:Braking assist, electronic brakeforce distribution, incline assistTraction Control:StandardStability Control:StandardRollover Protection:OptionalEmergency Assistance System:Not AvailableNHTSA Crash Test Driver:5 StarNHTSA Crash Test Passenger:4 StarNHTSA Crash Test Side Front:5 StarNHTSA Crash Test Side Rear:5 StarNHTSA Rollover:4 StarIIHS Offset:Good
CX-7
Safety Information: Front Airbags:StandardSide Airbags:Standard dual frontHead Airbags:Standard front and rearAntilock Brakes:4-wheel ABSElectronic Brake Enhancements:Electronic brakeforce distributionTraction Control:StandardStability Control:StandardRollover Protection:StandardEmergency Assistance System:Not AvailableNHTSA Crash Test Driver:5 starNHTSA Crash Test Passenger:5 starNHTSA Crash Test Side Front:5 starNHTSA Crash Test Side Rear:5 starNHTSA Rollover:Not TestedIIHS Offset:Not Tested
03-07-2007, 11:16 AM
Miatamoto

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammm

The RAV4 has a V6 option @ 269HP. The CX-7 Turbo is 'only' 244HP.

... and the CX-7 has the most painful turbo lag I've ever seen!
03-07-2007, 11:17 AM
Radio-Active

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Snip from an Edmonds writeup on the CX-7 (aka. Edge) : "The Toyota delivers better observed fuel economy — 19 mpg compared to the 16.6 we measured in the Mazda. Oh, and the RAV does all that on regular unleaded, while the CX-7 needs premium."

Well, If we're going for fuel economy, the Nissan Murano wins with an EPA 20/25 mpg. It also has a 5000 lbs towing capacity IIRC.

Otherwise, I would say the Chevy Tahoe with the proper V8/transmission setup will get 21mpg Hwy.
03-07-2007, 11:21 AM
Titus

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Snip from an Edmonds writeup on the CX-7 (aka. Edge) : "The Toyota delivers better observed fuel economy — 19 mpg compared to the 16.6 we measured in the Mazda. Oh, and the RAV does all that on regular unleaded, while the CX-7 needs premium."

That sucks on the mileage. Just a note though, the CX-7 does not = Edge. As I understand it, the CX-7 received it's own new platform designed within Mazda pulling elements from the Mazda3, Mazda5, and Mazda6. The larger Mazda CX-9/Ford Edge/Lincoln MKX crossovers use the Ford/Mazda jointly designed CD3 platform. I believe the CD3 is a derivative of the Mazda6 platform.
03-07-2007, 11:28 AM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Snip from an Edmonds writeup on the CX-7 (aka. Edge) : "The Toyota delivers better observed fuel economy — 19 mpg compared to the 16.6 we measured in the Mazda. Oh, and the RAV does all that on regular unleaded, while the CX-7 needs premium."

Apparently the front fender styling wasn't the only thing the CX-7 borrowed from the RX-8! :punchout:

Of course, at 16.6mpg, it still gets better mileage than my '8 does... :(
03-07-2007, 12:08 PM
black roadster

I'm a huge Mazda fan but after driving the CX-7 at Zoom-Zoom Live I wasn't impressed. Drove a Tribute recently and can honestly say I prefer our MPV. Why Mazda dropped the MPV escapes me. The new one in Japan is good looking!

http://z.about.com/d/minivans/1/7/5/...mpv-japan2.jpg
03-07-2007, 12:15 PM
redmenace

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS Racing

Ya finally going to get rid of that little red sports car and get yourself something a bit more age appropriate? ::GottaRun

Ooh, like a great big cream puff Cadillac! ;)
03-07-2007, 12:19 PM
Darron65

We were out shopping recently. The Mazda 5 and Toyota Highlander were both at the top of my list. Not hers though.
03-07-2007, 07:50 PM
onething

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Originally Posted by Darron65

We were out shopping recently. The Mazda 5 and Toyota Highlander were both at the top of my list. Not hers though.

but in what country were you? That could influence her needs
03-07-2007, 09:41 PM
Treibenschnell

Toyota with bead seat covers... do it.
03-07-2007, 09:50 PM
channelmaniac

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Originally Posted by Treibenschnell

Toyota with bead seat covers... do it.

Those beaded seat covers make it look like a New York taxi.
03-07-2007, 10:01 PM
Treibenschnell

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Originally Posted by channelmaniac

Those beaded seat covers make it look like a New York taxi.

Put a light on top, ask for a tip after a ride... and there you are! :D