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It starts out with the OP trying to predict the demise of the Miata.:punchout:
It's amazing all the nice things other Solstice owners had to say about our car!
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It starts out with the OP trying to predict the demise of the Miata.:punchout:
It's amazing all the nice things other Solstice owners had to say about our car!
Of course there are some that say the miata is ugly, corners like a boat etc but the ones that know what it can do chime in and say it's a great car.
Um, like us! Speaking of the NC of course! :puker:Quote:
Originally Posted by aalvarez04
::StirTheP
Cool, most of them locally are pretty cool. My parents are in that group and damn they go on a bunch of drives!
I think the NC looks like a bucket of smashed buttholes, but I'll defend it to my last breath from Solstice drivers :D
Well, I love the NC. Fix the 4x4 stance and it is a winner in my book.
In that case I'll rephrase my statement...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
Compared to an NA it looks like I described. However, if it was the first Miata I'd seen, I'd be all over it like stink on doody ;)
Okay I'll admit it's kinda pretty once it's lowered. I don't know what I'm saying. You can put me on ignore :(
:tooth:Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMonkey
But seriously, though.
I think that the Solstice is a good looking car. I wished that the engineers would figure out a way to make the trunk a little more user friendly.
I also liked the firs generations of the MR2 and Fiero when they both came out. I thought they did an excelent job of copying and making a much more reliable Fiat X-1/9. I wished that I had only had the since to put my money on the Toyota MR2 rather than the Fiat. I would probably still have it in my collection, whereas the Fiat lived up to it's name(Fix it again Tony).
Personally, I think the backside looks totally wicked. Unfortunately, the front is fugly. If they had changed that I would have loved it; I was stoked when it was announced but then disappointed when I saw it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Radio-Active
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Originally Posted by MadMonkey
What the hell is that suppost to look like?LOL:D
I'm going to need pics of that one for a visual.
Who is buying the Solstice or the Sky for that matter. I have only seen 2 Solstices on the road and no Skys.
I've seen mostly chicks driving Solstices... and all of a sudden I've started seeing Skys, driven by people convinced they got a good deal at a happy Saturn dealer... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
IMHO, the cars look pretty sharp, but everything I've read about them would lead straight to a Mazda dealer if I were in the market for a new 2-seater. The trunk is small, the gearbox in the base model has gimpy ratios, you can't see out with the top up, etc etc etc...
The Sol-sky strikes me as more of a show car that made it to production, rather than something that can actually be used every day.
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Originally Posted by trickyrix
Kind of like the Chevy SSR and the Plymouth Prowler.
Precisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
:confused: Really? I know I do a ton of driving going to all the hockey rinks across the metromess, but I see at least 5 a week! As oppossed to maybe 1 or 2 NC's a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
Yeah, a show car that Grassroots Motorsports said they'd pick hands down over the NC if they wanted to win SCCA showroom stock!::EvilBanaQuote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
::StirTheP
But yeah, as a daily driver the trunk sucks hardcore! You can actually fit quite a lot in the Miata trunk, especially the newer ones.
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Originally Posted by MadMonkey
Magma said it best one wednesday night....google goatse.Quote:
Originally Posted by driftdevil
Yeah, we all know you like the GM Twins better. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
I've seen more NCs than Sol/Skys.
I'd also take a Mazda over any GM product any day regardless of any automobile journalist's opinion.
Let's see how much of a following the GM Sisters have in 20 years. We'll also see how many 200k mile ones are driving around in 10 years. The Miata is bullet proof and a classic.
Think GM will sell anywhere near a half million units before they drop it?
oops... Boo2Quote:
Originally Posted by boisking
No. Don't... ::Spit::Quote:
Originally Posted by boisking
LOL! Urban Dictionary describes it quite well.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goatse
If anyone still has no idea what this is about... then this should give you a fair representation w/o the gory detail...Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwag
Plus, it would make an awesome Halloween decoration... ::Banana::
Staying more on topic, the new issue of "Turbo Magazine" has the new Blitz Turbo MX-5. It is very sweet looking!! The new turbo kit puts the numbers at "235 hp and 195 ft lbs. This was the best picture I could find unfortunately. http://www.nihoncar.com/en/news_gall...me=blitz_8.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Titus
I roll my eyes to the NC out of visual disappointment!Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
If you take the Euro-spec NC that doesn't have the fugly turn signals on the front of the fender & has the sexy & very functional side markers (in which I believe should be mandatory for all cars) then add the mazdaspeed body kit, lower it & throw on some nice wheels then I love the NC! But the base model shouldn't need all that to look good. IMHO
No ::turd:: The NC is BMW quality especially compared to the cheap plastic in the Solstice.Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
I'm not stepping on the Miata or its great legacy but I think you are seriously underestimating the GM sisters. Sure GM doesn't make as great of a car as Mazda or Toyota but they do make nice cars and are slowly attempting to improve the quailty...still haven't figured out how to equal 1980's quality imports interior materials though!:punchout:Quote:
Originally Posted by black roadster
A friend at work bought a Solstice GXP, and paid are you ready for this? $35K for it.
I think it looks pretty good, but the manual tranny feels like they lifted it from one of their pickups.
For the money, I'd rather buy 7 NA's... Or maybe just one & snicker at the poor girl's payments for the next 6 years.
Did I mention she just got married to a guy with 2 kids, and is pregnant herself? I predict a different car in her future very soon.
When I grow up I hope I know everything about everything like you! ::Whatev::Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
Read this, then call Professor Plum and get a clue.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=3442
Doesn't sound like you have a very bright co-worker. BTW, the Sol/Sky transmission is from a truck - the Chevy Colorado. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by pliablemoose
::Whatev::Quote:
Originally Posted by sammm
Wow, feel like I'm at the rice burner imports snobs forum. "Domestics suck! No Imports suck!" or "Chevy is better, no Ford is!" ::nono::
I never said I know everything & don't think so. If you re-read all my posts, I never say the GM cars are better than the Miata, etc. But I do give them due respect. Having a shitty plastic interior is not enough to claim a car as worst ever IMO.
The Camaro & Mustangs still have a huge following & they are pretty cheap crappy cars. So again, I wouldn't underestimate the GM sisters, that's all I'm saying.
My family has owned everything from Chevy, Plymoth, Nissan, Pontiac and of course Mazda. Sure the Nissan & Mazda were the nicest but the GM cars we owned were not huge piles of ::turd:: The 94 Plymoth that was a huge pile of ::turd:: certianly doesn't help the domestic cars cause when a brand new car has to be taken to the dealer for a new ac system & auto tranny in the first year!
Anyways, I can google a link claiming all the reasons Domestic cars are better than imports for every one like that. They're usually biased & only point out the bad examples. Just because domestics are in the lead in the bad example category doesn't mean they all suck.
IE: My 90 Miata has a nice quality interior, even despite 17 yrs in the Texas sun, my friend's 90 RX7 makes a GM interior look nice!:rolleyes:
::Bum::
::Bleh:: :chug:
Yep, my thoughts exactly, but I still love driving the parents Solstice! If GM wants to continue its "effort to improve" then that tranny certianly needs to be addressed in the next year model. Also be nice to change that top so you can fit more than a hat or purse in it!Quote:
Originally Posted by pliablemoose
lol, married with 2 kids & another on the way & she buys a Solstice! I can't think of a more impractical car, hell even a Ferrari has more space!
Wow... we've got some pretty, uh, passionate folks here on this one!
Having owned quite a few cars of different stripes, and driving a whole lot of cars of all sorts, I can only say that you can't pigeonhole an entire brand into one category (much less an entire national industry). So, a few observations...
I have owned both an '89 Mustang and a '95 Camaro (both of 'em V8's as God intended) - you'll probably be surprised to know that I would rank both of them among the best cars I've ever owned. They were VERY reliable, very cheap to maintain, fairly rattle-free, and an absolute BLAST to drive. After the Camaro, I had a gray-market '84 BMW 745 as a daily driver - whole different can o' worms. It drove like a luxury sports sedan should, had LOTS of turbo power, and it never left me absolutely stranded beside the road. BUT, the A/C never would work right, the car overheated in traffic in the summer (even after replacing the entire cooling system twice!), the transmission acted squirrelly on occasion, and the electrical system left something to be desired. Even so, I drove that car for almost TEN YEARS because, at the end of the day, I liked the way it looked, and I loved the way it could barrel down the road all day long in perfect comfort (given the right season, of course). Then I had a perfectly nice '97 Camry which was reliable and cheap, but an absolute f**king BORE to drive. Interspersed in among all these cars, I usually had an RX-7 to play with (or to play backup, as the case may have been). Finally, I got the Miata... and I couldn't be happier. Just like most of the cars I've owned, it's got its pros and cons, but the pros vastly outweigh the cons. And when the pros include "fun to drive" and "fun to drive" and "fun to drive" then I can overlook a hell of a lot.
I only had that Camry for about 8 months - the shortest time I've ever owned a daily driver.
Anyhow, every car has its pluses and minuses...
::BS:: Okay now, that's one thing I don't believe! I had a 96 Z28 & plenty of friends that have or still own a Mustang & unless it has less than 30k miles its going to rattle!Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
It was a blast to drive, especially after the motor mods...but still handled like a boat!
Well... I said "fairly" rattle free (they had their fair share, but they didn't shake themselves to pieces).Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
I autocrossed the 'Stang, even though brakes were apparently an extra-cost option. The Camaro, IMHO, was quite decent in the twisties, but I never autocrossed it...
...but in both cases, the most productive steering can be accomplished with the loud pedal. It's not a scalpel, it's a f***ing sledgehammer... good times!
:burnrubr:
+1 to that. I co-drove lugnutjon's old '99 Camaro SS more than a few times, and that car was a hoot to drive. There is something to be said for live axles, brute force, and V8 Chevy engines. ::rock::Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
Heh, I found that hard to believe, but it's true :burnrubr:Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
http://www.automotive.com/2006/43/po...est/index.htmlQuote:
The first six months of Solstii all get proper transmissions, too: a 5-speed stick (from the Chevy Colorado)
I have to admit though, the Solstice publicity got me interested in 2 seaters, after I did a little reading, I bought an NA though, best car I've ever bought for the $.
Yep yep, but one of the best times I had in my Miata was when I just got my first one. My best friend had a 94 Formula with every LG Motorsports suspension part you could buy and some go fast goodies and the look on his face when I took the clover leaf by our house in my stock 92 as fast as his car with all those goodies and better tires was priceless!:burnrubr: Then he understood why I sold the Z28 for a Miata!Quote:
Originally Posted by trickyrix
This is ooouuuuur country!Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Yes, yes... I totally understand... coming home from work on Friday night, I actually hit the green light at Royal coming off the Tollway. There was zero traffic (at 8:00 on a Friday) so I had the pure pleasure of ripping down a couple of gears and blowing through the intersection in nice little 4-wheel drift...Quote:
My best friend had a 94 Formula with every LG Motorsports suspension part you could buy and some go fast goodies and the look on his face when I took the clover leaf by our house in my stock 92 as fast as his car with all those goodies and better tires was priceless!
BUT the upside to my Z28 was boiling the tires at will, laying huge nasty stripes on the pavement, power-slides, donuts, and loud dirty V8 noises that make your mouth water... good ol' American Hooliganism...
BTW, I also had a claptrap $3k '87 Buick Grand National with 130K miles that would absolutely blow the doors off the Camaro... THAT thing handled like a boat, but it would smoke the tires for a city block! ::Banana::
I had a good example of a Japanese car that went in 4 times for Trany problems in the first 19000 miles and on year of ownership. The forth time they finally decided that they were going to have to replace it.Quote:
Originally Posted by icepenguin66
Makes me feel wonderfull about VTEC.
I have been gone for a few days so this may be an old topic....
A good friend of mine bought a Soltice and just about every time he is in town he is taking it to the dealer.
It's a great looking car but seems that it has alot of issues to get worked out.
Ya, luckily my parents Solstice has only been once for a ding and again for something else. Nothing too major that I've heard, not too bad for a first model by a domestic company, but I don't think they're gonna live down the top design after the first ones become a couple years old and that goofy top design starts falling apart waaay to early!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasher
Ya, actually like the body lines, but the top looks to be too much of an after thought for the car. Cheap, almost like the fake convertible tops on a Lincoln Town Car.
Smoked a guy at a light in a brand new black soltice 2 or 3 days ago on 14th st.
The look on his smug face was priceless. :punchout:
I still like my NC :)
I did consider a Solstice over my Miata when I was shopping, but the Solstice is 300lbs heavier, gets somewhat worse gas mileage, and for the time being I could get a better price on the Miata. The MSRP on the Solstice IS lower than the Miata, but thanks to the forces of supply and demand the asking price on Solstice's are a little elevated. While the Miata is clearly NOT an unpopular car, it has been out for near 20 years and there isn't the same hype surrounding it. End result: I got a steal on a 6speed '06 MX5 in Decemer '06. Last '06 on the lot :)