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Here's a link to the article.
Makes the 104mph in a 60mph zone that I got once look pretty insignificant, doesn't it? :wink:
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:shock:
Here's a link to the article.
Makes the 104mph in a 60mph zone that I got once look pretty insignificant, doesn't it? :wink:
Yup. There's nothing quite as accurate as a cop in a 120mph airplane a mile away with a stopwatch.
(Nobody in the industry believes it.)
Even if the cop with the stopwatch was a full second early punching the "stop" button, the motorcyclist's speed still works out to 167mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTRACE
As someone pointed out on the pointy board, the "You Honor, I wasn't going 205mph, I was only going 170mph" defense isn't likely to win the rider a whole lot of sympathy with the judge... :?
Oh, I'm not on the rider's side at all, but the problem is that the mainstream press seems to have decided we can all do 200+ mph with "minor modifications" because a cop with no experience said so.
Hell, I pulled a quick 150 on the Miata run a few weeks ago. If I'd been clocked, I would have had to suffer the consequences of my "unconscionable" act. But if I'd been busted for 205 on a vehicle that's speed limited to 184, I think I'd be fighting it.
The simple legal truth is that he was cited and arrested for lots of things that aren't based specifically on the clock. But when you write a guy for 205, you'd better be sure he was doing 205. He'll probably beat the speeding ticket because it's a black and white thing. He was either doing it or he wasn't, and he only needs to prove the impossibility of the act to be found not guilty. The wreckless endangerment, driving without a license, and anything else they got him on will probably keep him occupied for some time.
In the real world, this goober will probably plead to a couple of years of probation and a loss of the license he never had anyway.... and we'll never hear from him again until the next time he elects to show his immaturity. Meanwhile, the average citizen will continue to believe that streetbikes can do 205 with ease.
Just 'cause the cops say it happened, doesn't mean it happened.
I have no problem with liberal or conservative media. I have a huge problem with knee-jerk media and I see it every day on hundreds of subjects. This is one of them.
The day a cop gets something right is the day that I will be scared because pigs will fly, hell will have frozen over and the Dmv will actually have that what was it. .. ... oh yeah real customer service
ha ha ha I agree if he was going 167 or 150 or whatever they need to be accurate because remember the law says Beyond a resonable doubt the inaccuracy would introduce doubt and if that is so then the original citaion would be thrown out then all the other stuff would have to be thrown out to because the probable cause to pull them over would be gone therefore any evidence collected after the fact would automatically be inadmissable in court therefore the two would get off scott free.
my dad is a state supre court judge in another state I asked him he said the logic was simple, the cop wanted to dramatize the event if he had just told the truth there would be no doubts but no he had to Imbellish a littel nad now the two go free
I persoanly think the two should fry but hey what do i know motorcycles= donorcycles and i have 2 of them so go figure
rory 8) :study:
rory
Here's some info that's sorta pertinent.
Today at MotoGP practice in Qatar, on a new track with a 1km front straight, the worlds fastest and most expensive roadrace bikes were only able to do 203 mph with professionals onboard.
Only 203? What the heck am I saying? :roll:
They don't teach punctuation, spelling, or grammar in school any more, do they? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpt1826
nope one long uninterrupted mispeeled centance has been proven to attract more attention as people strugle to figur out jus watt the writer is trying to say see you are werking hard and will be firing off a tart respons to this post almost imediately :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
You done speeled "the" wrong isn't it "teh"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kestrel
Wow, guys he is still new, wait a few weeks to give him a hard time...
Did rx7glse tell him about this board? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by POS Racing
They stopped calling them Grammar Schools before I got there. I'm amazed you ever heard of them!!! Are you a History major?Quote:
Originally Posted by altiain
Rumor has it they teach manners just a bit better now than they did back in the old days when we had to study punctuation on cave walls and fight dinosaurs uphill both ways in the snow to and from school. :lol:
How can you tell if you're getting old?
If you've ever thought or written a sentence containing "those kids today" or words to that effect, you're officially OLD! :roll:
I'm not old, I've just had 49 years of childhood! :P
I could do all the grammr correction and punctuations and all the Proper spacing and all the proper stuff but I would stand out that way because only a few people here do and well it takes to long to do all of that as long as the point gets across,I'm happy
rory 8)
That thing there, that i done did, i done did it right :lol:
Glad to see you've got a sense of humor. You're going to fit in just fine around here, I think. :mrgreen:
I've studies many subjects and snoozed through many classes, but History wasn't among them. At least, not that I recall. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by onething
Couldn't they pretty much have covered History in one half hour lecture when you were a kid? :lol:
It doesn't take half an hour to say "Tasty dinos all dead now." :lol:
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Originally Posted by altiain
Umm? I'm with Outrace here. I've watch some speed challanges, and bikes have a reeeaaaallllly hard time getting over 200mph as the areodynamics are a force that is hard to rekon with. I may be wrong, but I thought the motorcycle land speed record was around 205mph? Anyone know for sure?Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTRACE
Oh, I found this http://www.dontbescaredracing.com
The MC LSR is at least 333 in a 'liner. The open bike speed record is just a bit over 250 aboard a street legal 1300cc turbo'ed Hayabusa.
Make no mistake, the difference between 205 and 250 is about a bajillion horsepower.
Top speed occurs when the total drag equals the force applied thru the contact patch. If you apply more power to the contact patch than it can handle, the tire will simply spin and you will not gain any additional speed.
The real difficulty with bikes is the size of the contact patch. In order to apply more power to the ground, you need a bigger contact patch. The larger the contact patch, the less maneuverable the bike is. If you get a large enough contact patch, the bike won't steer at all, which means you can't keep it upright. It's a classic compromise.
My brother will be headed to bonneville with a turbo busa sometime in the next two years. But he's only looking to go 200+. We're working on some aero stuff that should help.
That said, what is the likely hood of a guy on a street bike on the highway doing 205 :scratch: From what I've seen, stability is one heck of an issue around the 200mph range on a bike that's not really really modified to be slippery and smooth. Back when I rode, I had a V-max (not the most areodynamic) and although the advertised top speed was 153mph, I could only do 135 comfortably. I did take it to 145 but the wind wabble was a real concern at that speed. While I know the cafe' bikes are much cleaner than my V-max I would think 200+ in less that optimal conditions would be difficult at best, especially if he had mirrors.Quote:
Originally Posted by OUTRACE