Possible Group buy Toyo- RA1

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05-11-2007, 01:30 PM
MiataMike

Possible Group buy Toyo- RA1

I'm working on getting a group buy for some tires through a buddy. But to get a good discount on the tires I need enough people to buy 35 tires so the goal is 9 sets of tires. I'm not sure what the final price is going to be. I will find that information out either later today or early next week. So if your interested let me know Put down the size tire you would want.

Cost Per Tire if we can get 5 people to buy sets: $116.85 + $14.25 Per shaved tire = $131.10

Cost Per Tire if we can get 10+ people to buy sets: $110.70 + $13.50 Per shaved tire = 124.20

This price does not include the cost of shipping. Approx an additional $5-8 per tire.

through Gary

205/50-15 $120 each

225/45-15 $130 each

Shaving add $8.50 each

Shipping charges will also apply
05-11-2007, 01:33 PM
jeff_man

what would be best for 16", 215/45/16 or 215/50/16?

i want at lest a set, how soon are you looking to order?
05-11-2007, 01:38 PM
smartmx5

205/50-15s nonshaved. At least one set, possibly more.
TIA,
Alan
05-11-2007, 01:52 PM
Titus

I am interested in seeing the pricing. Goodwin Racing sells 205/50-15 RA-1s for $129 mounted and balanced when you buy wheels too and Edge Racing sells them for $120. Get them down around $100 and I might bite.
05-11-2007, 01:58 PM
SirHustlerEsq

does anyone in town shave tires? I think 5th gear might, but I'm not sure.
05-11-2007, 02:01 PM
jeff_man

why shave when you can run them a few time then shave them =P
05-11-2007, 02:13 PM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_man

what would be best for 16", 215/45/16 or 215/50/16?

i want at lest a set, how soon are you looking to order?

I was told it will take about 2 weeks to get them in so in order for us to get them in time last possible date would be around June 1st.

and I would go with 215/50/16

More rubber up top and a stronger sidewall.
05-11-2007, 02:14 PM
Treibenschnell

Moved to Parts is Parts...
05-11-2007, 02:19 PM
jeff_man

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

I was told it will take about 2 weeks to get them in so in order for us to get them in time last possible date would be around June 1st.

ya but when will you need the money?
05-11-2007, 02:24 PM
SirHustlerEsq

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_man

why shave when you can run them a few time then shave them =P

That sounds logical, but a few sm drivers told me the tire will overheat, and blocks off tread will come off much quicker. I know its counter-intuitive, but this was recommended from previous experience. Apparently "tread squirm" makes a ton of heat.

I haven't spoken to any locals on this issue...primarily because I bought azenis in stead.
05-11-2007, 02:30 PM
jeff_man

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr brg

That sounds logical, but a few sm drivers told me the tire will overheat, and blocks off tread will come off much quicker. I know its counter-intuitive, but this was recommended from previous experience. Apparently "tread squirm" makes a ton of heat.

I haven't spoken to any locals on this issue...primarily because I bought azenis in stead.

i don't drive hard enough to over heat tires, at lest not yet
05-11-2007, 02:38 PM
tailchaser

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_man

i don't drive hard enough to over heat tires, at lest not yet

That's not usually the way it works...
05-11-2007, 02:46 PM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_man

ya but when will you need the money?

I was told I would have to pay the money up front. Since they are a special order item.

I still haven't heard back from him as to how much the cost per tire will be.
Also I'm pretty sure the cost of tire if it differs from 205/50/15 there could be a cost difference.
05-11-2007, 02:53 PM
jeff_man

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

I was told I would have to pay the money up front. Since they are a special order item.

LOL again, when will that be, looking for a day or date so i can put cash to the side :D
05-11-2007, 03:58 PM
gabkwong

It all depends $$$ for 15". If we can get TCB deal, than I am in.
05-11-2007, 05:22 PM
Nexus Flux

I'd take a set in 225/45/17 if the price is right.
05-11-2007, 05:28 PM
miataspeedracer

Ra1s are on my shopping list for later this year, but for the right price I'd commit early.
205/50-15s for me...
05-11-2007, 08:43 PM
channelmaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabkwong

It all depends $$$ for 15". If we can get TCB deal, than I am in.

+1

Price it shaved plz.

I'm gonna need 'em - Eagles Canyon is doing a few member-only weekends before opening... for only the (spread amongst the members attending) costs for the corner workers and ambulance.

RJ
05-11-2007, 10:12 PM
johnwag

If the price is right, I'm in.
05-12-2007, 06:30 AM
CosmosMpower

Maybe look on the SCCA forums since the miata shares lots of common sizes. I picked up a set of 6/32 RA1's from a guy on the Evo forum in 255/40/17 for my RX-8 for around 85 a piece.
05-12-2007, 09:20 AM
altiain

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr brg

That sounds logical, but a few sm drivers told me the tire will overheat, and blocks off tread will come off much quicker. I know its counter-intuitive, but this was recommended from previous experience. Apparently "tread squirm" makes a ton of heat.

I haven't spoken to any locals on this issue...primarily because I bought azenis in stead.

This is true. Running on dry track conditions, a tire with a tread pattern like an RA-1 will typically last longer when shaved, and it will offer more consistent grip over its lifetime. Because the tread pattern has a lot of void compared to more modern competition tires, it has more tread squirm at full tread, and this squirm not only contributes to more unpredictable handling from the car, but it also greatly increases the tire's temperature.

Heat cycling is another good recommendation for competition tires. This involves bringing the tires up to a uniform temperature of about 150 degrees, then letting them cool and rest for approximately 48 hours. This allows the molecular bonds in the rubber to be broken and reformed, and it also promotes longer tire life and more consistent grip over the lifespan of the tire.

Todd Eady's Discount Tire in Carrolton offers both heat cycling and tread shaving on site, iirc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff_man

i don't drive hard enough to over heat tires, at lest not yet

In my experience, it is typically newbies that overheat tires more than anyone, because they tend to overdrive the car more. :wink:
05-12-2007, 09:28 AM
jeff_man

Quote:

Originally Posted by altiain

In my experience, it is typically newbies that overheat tires more than anyone, because they tend to overdrive the car more. :wink:

:oops: guess I'm getting some shaved
05-15-2007, 05:00 PM
MiataMike

Ok, heres the verdict on what we can get at a group buy

Cost Per Tire if we can get 5 people to buy sets: $116.85 + $14.25 Per shaved tire = $131.10

Cost Per Tire if we can get 10+ people to buy sets: $110.70 + $13.50 Per shaved tire = 124.20

This price does not include the cost of shipping. Approx an additional $5-8 per tire.

Approximate delievery time less than 1 week.

Anyone thats interested post the size tire you want.
05-15-2007, 05:25 PM
channelmaniac

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

Anyone thats interested post the size tire you want.

1 set of 205/50-15 Shaved.

RJ
05-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Titus

I have a line on something else, so I am probably out.
05-15-2007, 05:33 PM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titus

I have a line on something else, so I am probably out.

I will find out tomorrow if we can include other types of tires in the order at a discounted price as well. But I won't find out about that until tomorrow when I talk to the owner So put down what you want and I'll ask tomorrow when I talk to the big guy
05-15-2007, 07:04 PM
jeff_man

i wont have th money tell after tdr@msr so I'm out, if you get some after then let me know
05-16-2007, 10:15 AM
MiataMike

Also we can still get the discounts on the tires if anyone wants other types of tires (price will vary depending on tire size) Prices shown are for 205/50/15

BF Goodrich R1 $201
Hankook Z211 $110 (16" rim)
HanKook Z212 $77
05-16-2007, 11:39 AM
CosmosMpower

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

Also we can still get the discounts on the tires if anyone wants other types of tires (price will vary depending on tire size) Prices shown are for 205/50/15

BF Goodrich R1 $201
Hankook Z211 $110 (16" rim)
HanKook Z212 $77

Why is the 16" size so much? It's only 79 at edge racing. Do you offer good prices on 225/5016 and 245/45/16?
05-16-2007, 03:08 PM
smartmx5

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmosMpower

Why is the 16" size so much? It's only 79 at edge racing. Do you offer good prices on 225/5016 and 245/45/16?

+1 on the 16". I am not sure on exact size until my buddy gets back with me.
05-16-2007, 03:10 PM
MiataMike

I might have got the tires mixed up I'd have to double check back with him. We only talked about 5 different types of tires. Perhaps we should just stick with the ToYo tires. Just to keep things simple
05-16-2007, 06:11 PM
smartmx5

I need a set of non-shaved 205/50-15 and if they have a set of 225/45-15 for a 15 x 8 rim. What would be the price on the 225/45-15 shaved?
05-16-2007, 11:31 PM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartmx5

I need a set of non-shaved 205/50-15 and if they have a set of 225/45-15 for a 15 x 8 rim. What would be the price on the 225/45-15 shaved?

You want to get two sets of tires?

4 tires @ 205/50/15
and
4 tires @ 225/45/15
05-17-2007, 07:29 AM
smartmx5

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiataMike

You want to get two sets of tires?

4 tires @ 205/50/15
and
4 tires @ 225/45/15

MiataMike,

Definite on the 205/50-15 non shaved (for rains).

Would like price on 225/45-15 shaved.
Thanks,
Alan
05-17-2007, 07:58 AM
MiataMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by smartmx5

MiataMike,

Definite on the 205/50-15 non shaved (for rains).

Would like price on 225/45-15 shaved.
Thanks,
Alan

If we get enough people to purchase 40 tires this is what it will be.

225/45/15
$120.60 for the tire + $13.50 for shaving = $134.10 + the cost of shipping

If we only get enough to purchase 20 tires this is what it will be.

225/45/15

$127.30 for the tire + 14.25 for shaving = $141.55 +the cost of shipping.
05-22-2007, 12:12 PM
MiataMike

through Gary

205/50-15 $120 each

225/45-15 $130 each

Shaving add $8.50 each

Shipping charges will also apply