701whp stock block S2000

[DrpepperTECH!]

that I can understand. I would want to know if I was able to put down 700hp but if i drove on 500 would it blow up in a day? yeah I would want some kind of reassurance before i dropped some big nickle with a tuner. I guess you would just have to see some kind of portfolio. much like a photographer or a designer before paying up. But if you want some info from this guy I'm sure we can come up with some for you.

[SirHustlerEsq]

that I can understand. I would want to know if I was able to put down 700hp but if i drove on 500 would it blow up in a day? yeah I would want some kind of reassurance before i dropped some big nickle with a tuner. I guess you would just have to see some kind of portfolio. much like a photographer or a designer before paying up. But if you want some info from this guy I'm sure we can come up with some for you.

In my portfolio of choice it will have a list of customers, and the # of track-hours it lasted. Hopefully well-over 100-hours so I can keep the motor more than 2-years.

Actually he told me over the phone that he was not interested in letting me tune the car on his dyno unless it was one of the computers he sells, its his dyno and he can do what he wants. I have a good deal set up with Powercurve in Austin, and its a great dyno too. He lets me show up, give him money, tune the car while he works the dyno, and leave happy.

I don't have to worry about someone's questionable "good idea" to get some crazy output # when I tune it...anyone who's driven it will tell you drivability is solid and it makes more than enough power. I want to do some <4000rpm work with load control again though to clean up some stuff I avoided because I was tired and cranky.

[Miatamaniac92]

when i get my Miata i want to make 200 and i think that will be perfect... Is there any videos out there of a 500+ whp miata cause i would like to see that! that would be crazy cool! Just about the convo about Tony... Mr Brg why dont you show us some stuff that you fav. North Texas tuner has done... just to show how great he is! Not arguing but it just seams like you are tying to start something with out showing something...

http://forums.dfwmiata.com/showpost....9&postcount=94

Well that is kinda the point of a "Tuner".... why would someone tell you their secrets? Its like going to place that has some good food but they have a great secret traditional recipes. you pay but you don't get the secrets... Just like a tuner, why would they tell you? they tell you, you do it on your friends car and there goes their money. I'm sure that they will be willing if you pay extra. But there is a reason people don't like customers to look over their shoulders while they are working.

Tuning is not a super secret science. Although, it is an expensive learning curve if you mess up. I find it hard to believe that a tuner would face stiff competition from a guy that watched a tuner put his car on the dyno and explained what he is doing. Tuning cars on a dyno is probably only a relativley small part of their entire business (unless they only specialize in dyno tuning).

Some customers want a turn key hot rod. Others want to be able to tweek it or even fix it themselves (god forbid). Many of these cars change parts like a normal person changes socks.

Chris

[DrpepperTECH!]

http://forums.dfwmiata.com/showpost....9&postcount=94
Tuning is not a super secret science

It may not be super secret but people do different things.... That is why one person thinks that one guy is better then the other. But do to the fact that people do different things kinda makes it their own. different strategies, technologies, perspective, know how... Ect. because if every tuner was the same then NASCAR and other types of Specific racing would suck (I'm not a big fan of NASCAR but not the point).

[SirHustlerEsq]

It may not be super secret but people do different things.... That is why one person thinks that one guy is better then the other. But do to the fact that people do different things kinda makes it their own. different strategies, technologies, perspective, know how... Ect. because if every tuner was the same then NASCAR and other types of Specific racing would suck (I'm not a big fan of NASCAR but not the point).

Genuine question:
Can you please tell me what I don't understand or what I've overlooked because I tune for MBT without detonation.

Ideas like super-retard spark to shoot fire through the turbine to supposedly make it spool faster, and detonation at low rpm are not things I'm interested in though.

[DrpepperTECH!]

Genuine question:
Can you please tell me what I don't understand or what I've overlooked because I tune for MBT without detonation.

Ideas like super-retard spark to shoot fire through the turbine to supposedly make it spool faster, and detonation at low rpm are not things I'm interested in though.

Tell you the truth... people make good money to know these things.... I don't know much about tuning as far as making cam and other adjustments. tuning a ECM or a PCM depending on car and make. I have read on forums ways that others have tuned for MBT... but i have been into Honda for so long... as much as i love them they are not known for Torque. Why don't you take it to Tony and see what he says. Anything is worth a try.

[trickyrix]

Ideas like super-retard spark to shoot fire through the turbine to supposedly make it spool faster, and detonation at low rpm are not things I'm interested in though.

Tell you the truth... people make good money to know these things....

Am I reading this wrong?

[SirHustlerEsq]

Am I reading this wrong?

Its the new hotness to put in a little detonation at low rpm because "it makes power." I think its a great idea if longevity is not a goal.

Tell you the truth... people make good money to know these things.... I don't know much about tuning as far as making cam and other adjustments. tuning a ECM or a PCM depending on car and make. I have read on forums ways that others have tuned for MBT... but i have been into Honda for so long... as much as i love them they are not known for Torque. Why don't you take it to Tony and see what he says. Anything is worth a try.

I know nothing specific about T1R aside from a respectable refusal to tune MS because its inferior to MoTec (and $4k cheaper). I don't care to "try" with $600-1000.

Tuning is not a black art; the goal is an output with safe-conditions and drivability.