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    I just registered for TDR @ MSR and it sounds like I need to go ahead and replace my pads. I have a '01 with non sport brakes but it is going to be non intercooled with a supercharger for the class. It is my daily driver and I put about 150 miles a day on back county, farm roads for my commute. The pads will remain rather than using 2 sets for track and street. I just want to be safe for the class and my first time on a track but not noisy and dusty daily afterwards. I am considering Hawk HPS front and rear and changing the fluid with Motul 600.
    Is this a good choice? Are there better ideas and what if any experience has anyone had with these?
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    This was recently discussted FWIW...

    http://forums.dfwmiata.com/showthread.php?t=14015

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarCar View Post
    I just registered for TDR @ MSR and it sounds like I need to go ahead and replace my pads. I have a '01 with non sport brakes but it is going to be non intercooled with a supercharger for the class. It is my daily driver and I put about 150 miles a day on back county, farm roads for my commute. The pads will remain rather than using 2 sets for track and street. I just want to be safe for the class and my first time on a track but not noisy and dusty daily afterwards. I am considering Hawk HPS front and rear and changing the fluid with Motul 600.
    Is this a good choice? Are there better ideas and what if any experience has anyone had with these?
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    That's what I did for my car but used the Valvoline Synthetic instead. It's the same heat range though. I did experience some fade though out at Eagle's Canyon once at the end of the 2000' straightway. I keep my Hawks on daily. No noise and a bit more dust than stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nails View Post
    That's what I did for my car but used the Valvoline Synthetic instead. It's the same heat range though.
    Not quite:

    • Valvoline Synthetic - Dry: 527 F, Wet: 347 F
    • Motul RBF600 - Dry: 593 F, Wet: 420 F


    Valvoline is not bad, plus it is inexpensive and readily available (most Autozones carry it). RBF600 is better stuff, though.
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    Sammm, yep, read that thread. He has the larger sport brakes and is discussing the Hawk HP+ not the HPS. Did not sound positive to me. The EBC Yellows, I did not feel comfortable hearing they "cooked the hell out of them in only 3 laps".
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    Not quite:

    • Valvoline Synthetic - Dry: 527 F, Wet: 347 F
    • Motul RBF600 - Dry: 593 F, Wet: 420 F


    Valvoline is not bad, plus it is inexpensive and readily available (most Autozones carry it). RBF600 is better stuff, though.
    Nice chart, the Valvoline is a better value than Super Blue.

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    FWIW I've run Motul 600 and Amsoil dot4 stuff in the Evo. I was able to get the Motul 600 to boil (and my pads to smoke) after 4-5 fun runs in a row at Mineral Wells last November.

    At ECR this Feb, I never got the Amsoil to do anything but stop my car. No boils or anything. One other Evo got his to boil, but he was easing onto the brakes rather than threshold braking.

    It's reasonably priced as well.

    The Amsoil stuff is 580D 410W boiling point.

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    Actually, my Valvoline Synthetic is 480 dry and 311 wet boiling point. I think I'll try something higher then.

    It's Synthetic 3 + 4 if that makes a difference.

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