Reply With QuoteI have never run with NASA but I read the rule as "should have" which to me means optional. If it said "shall have" or "will have" then it's required.
I would still be suprised if a roll bar was not required.
you can read!Originally Posted by Miatamoto
that's like calling the dealer and asking if racing will void your warranty. what are they supposed to say? if your scared, go get tech'ed and register/pay afterwards on the morning of the event. don't you track your car all the time? why wouldn't you have a bar anyways?
I have never run with NASA but I read the rule as "should have" which to me means optional. If it said "shall have" or "will have" then it's required.
I would still be suprised if a roll bar was not required.
Guess you don't bother.you can read!
that's like calling the dealer and asking if racing will void your warranty. what are they supposed to say? if your scared, go get tech'ed and register/pay afterwards on the morning of the event. don't you track your car all the time? why wouldn't you have a bar anyways?
If the head of NASA TX TT and the national office say that it's a no-go, why would you think it wouldn't be a problem. My NC's main purpose is being a daily driver. It is also built to the SCCA STR autocross class and serves as my HPDE car for fun. It's not built to be a track competition car. I don't need a roll bar for any of the other uses. I thought it would be fun to try a NASA TT but if it doesn't meet their safety standards I'm not going to go out of my way to make the car legal for that. I've got plenty of other competitive outlets to keep myself busy.
Thomas
V-to-the-Dub
apparently you don't either. i said from the start that you could in hpde. NOT TT. (although my buddy did just that in his msm) second, the tt director or the national office isn't going to be at msr-c doing tech insp. i don't know how else to say this more clearly, not sure what you don't understand.
why would i think it would not be a problem? because i and many of my friends have gone to nasa events at tracks across texas without one. of course we have all installed one now. all but one of my friends started running hpde's without a bar for the first few hpde's, at all different times throughtout the past 5 years. that's why i don't think it would be a problem. that's also why i said you could fill out a tech form and get that out of the way first. if for some reason they say no, your not out your entry fee. but that just might be too much trouble for what it's worth. actually, it's already too much trouble. sorry you couldn't make it, i would have loved to see what your car could do.
Last edited by spoolin2bars; 02-25-2010 at 01:36 AM.
Like I said, the NASA CCR covers HPDE and TT. If you and your friends have run events without a roll bar somebody dropped the ball. Just b/c the national office is not going to be doing tech inspection at MSR doesn't make it right.
Thomas
V-to-the-Dub
You'll see my black NC, though it will run a great deal slower than Miatamoto's black one!...I'm talking bout using a calender to measure the difference lol.....either way I'll be out there for the seat time and fun.
Not true NC Eunos! Your car runs a good deal faster than Miatamoto's. It will be driven slower. Fastest laps my car ever made at Hallett were with Miatamoto or Trackdog driving it.
awesome! it would be nice if geezer would show up too. his nc is real fast at harris hill road. like to see that car on track sometime. he's never there when i go to h2r.
i get it, your not going. but stop saying someone dropped the ball. it was never picked up. that's not a rule they enforce here. they wan't to grow in members and allow it in hpde. of course they can't admit that. but anybody that tracks more than a couple times in a convertible always buys a roll bar (as all my friend's and i have) anyway's. but you're not a newb, i'm sure you would be driving much faster than a first timer, so there's no excuse for you. you shouldn't be doing any trackday events in your car wether they allow it or not.Like I said, the NASA CCR covers HPDE and TT. If you and your friends have run events without a roll bar somebody dropped the ball. Just b/c the national office is not going to be doing tech inspection at MSR doesn't make it right.
The NC has a bar.
roll bar 1.jpgroll bar 2.jpgcrash.jpg
Fixed it for ya!
The roll bar’s main hoop should extend the full width of the car (except certain cars that have been approved by NASA)
Blah blah blah!
I'm planning to come. But I'll be miffed if I get there and they disallow my double hoop, 6 point bar that is about 4 inches over my helmet.
Allright good to see that your a maybe james! Long time no see since that s2k day at HHR.
yes! you're a real man's man!
In for Saturday. HPDE3.
Even if I don't run I'll be out there to see Geezers car.
Anyone know what direction/configuration this event will be? I looked at the NASA site but didn't see any indication - Apologies in advance if everyone already except me already knows this :)
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