LSC BMWCCA AX #3 - May 8, 2010

[OZMDD]

OZMDD - I didn't know you had a Miata before the Yaris! What were you thinking when you switched to the Yaris! Thanks for the tie rod info, I would not have known that.

LOL. I actually had the Yaris first, tried autox and got hooked, bought the NA for my "autox" car, decided it was a hassle/expense having that many cars, sold it and built-up the Yaris for autox, and finally realized that I didn't actually need a back seat, but I DO need a real sports car, not a dressed-up econobox!

The other theory is that I'm trying to become Ken-O II: how many cars can I own in a year...

[brandonmpace]

The course was a lot of fun! I have video of my last 4 runs that I'll post soon. The video definitely showed me a few places I could improve.
I hope to make it to more autocrosses soon because I had a blast.

[M3 Adjuster]

Great Course and first time shiftin to 3rd :) , unfortunally i DNF on my best lap, what i dont have clear yet is, when i dnf? at the end or while on the course?

I apologize for not explaining this to the OP at the event. The two cones in question were part of a wall. Walls are used on courses to generally represent a course boundary and/or may indicate to a driver a mandatory change of direction is needed. With LSC BMW, going through or knocking down a portion of a wall is a DNF, whether it is before after the timer lights. In this particular case, that wall was there to ensure safety in the area of the van. Awesome run, great time, but you overcooked the brakes (in a fairly major way actually) and hit a wall. Did it really take away your best time? EDIT: Doh! looks like it was your best run... But even if time were added at one second per cone, then that's still an additional two seconds and easily not your best run.

If it was the run where you went off the end of the finish lane and hit 2 cones it should not have been a DNF. You should have just received a penalty for 2 cones. If it changes the results I will update it.

Is that per the SCCA? I was actually checking out the NTAXS thread while I was on here....
So.. on this course... at the 37 second mark,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyiSP...ayer_embedded#!

had you not made the turn, and, say... knocked down two of the four standing cones, it would not be a DNF per SCCA?
I guess I certainly would not agree with that...

[ken o]

Per SCCA if you enter the course where you left the course it does not count as a DNF. If I went thru the wall and backed up thru the same spot in the wall it would not be a DNF or if I went thru and hooked a U turn back thru the same spot it would not be a DNF. Now to get even more detailed. If there is a wall and I hit the end cone plus others it would not be a DNF and I could keep going because I hit the cone on the end of the wall.

[M3 Adjuster]

gotcha... wow. Well that's certainly interesting! The U turn scenario was exactly what I was thinking of.. ... and of course the end cone on the
wall... I guess that makes sense in SCCA -land because of some of the way they have their elements... Well I'm all for simpllicity..

Just for info to all.. Here's how LSC rolls..

Three or more cones lined up together (laying down or vertical) =wall.... hitting wall = DNF.
The committee had already been discussing putting rules on the back of the course maps again...it sounds liike it would help to have an easy guide.

[CHeavin_2006]

http://www.dfwmiata.com/showthread.p...suspension-etc.

At least he found his way back into the flock.

+1 Nice!!!

[CHeavin_2006]

I did like the course, but unfortunately didnt put together a real solid run... kinda disappointed in my driving...

[SixAce]

Here are some Photos from today's event.

My friend and I enjoyed the day.

Thanks for the nice pix Doug! Now take care of the ticker and get back behind the wheel soon

[vetteblues10]

Here are just some more random pics from the event. Thanks Matt for giving me a shot in the CR. So awesome.

http://picasaweb.google.com/11370739...CCAAutocross3#

[CHeavin_2006]

Thanks for taking some nice pics out there. To you as well as doug, I appreciate it!

[LePapirrikY]

gotcha... wow. Well that's certainly interesting! The U turn scenario was exactly what I was thinking of.. ... and of course the end cone on the
wall... I guess that makes sense in SCCA -land because of some of the way they have their elements... Well I'm all for simpllicity..

Just for info to all.. Here's how LSC rolls..

Three or more cones lined up together (laying down or vertical) =wall.... hitting wall = DNF.
The committee had already been discussing putting rules on the back of the course maps again...it sounds liike it would help to have an easy guide.

Thanks for the explanation, i knew it wasnt going to be my best on the results but on the timer it was, it felt good getting the second off on my Rio but yeah that brakes lock up and couldnt do anything but still had fun while doing it :)

i'll be on the next event for sure.

Ohh and thanks Doug for showing some Kia luv :)

[trickyrix]

That was slippery and fun out there! Great times! I finally stopped getting lost in the sea of cones, "looked ahead," and made a couple of decent (for me) runs at the end of the day.

[ken o]

One comment made was that the speed at this event was higher than other event at TMS. So due to the speed increasing the level of grip decreased. Thoughts?

[Clovis]

One comment made was that the speed at this event was higher than other event at TMS. So due to the speed increasing the level of grip decreased. Thoughts?

The surface was slick as owl sh*t in the AM for group 1. It was like driving in the rain. I though it felt pretty good during the PM runs. Top speed for the Exige was 76.

[OZMDD]

Results?

[MugenGS]

Posted video of Stephen and my best runs. We really had a blast out there. Great course!

[CHeavin_2006]

The surface was slick as owl sh*t in the AM for group 1. It was like driving in the rain. I though it felt pretty good during the PM runs. Top speed for the Exige was 76.

Lotus Exige S was gorgeous
almost always see them with black wheels, but those wheels looked really nice on it.

good point on the higher speeds ken.. im gonna need some wider rims so i can put down more rubber..these stock 17x7's just aren't really doing it for me...

[762]

One comment made was that the speed at this event was higher than other event at TMS. So due to the speed increasing the level of grip decreased. Thoughts?

Yeah I may have been the one to bring that up with you. I think it's not that the surface was less grippy, but more of that a driver would want to carry more speed and break later then the surface allowed. I don't know if this was the same for the lighter cars, but I know my car always hates braking on that surface, so that combined with me over driving and not just easing off to get on the throttle more smoothly cost me way to much time.

Even on the straights I was having to lift just a little bit because I was always trying to carry more entry speed then I could, which would make my exits pretty bad.

[sammm]

trying to carry more entry speed then I could, which would make my exits pretty bad.

Slow in, Fast out.

[762]

Yeah, that is the truth. That tms surface is just difficult to me sometimes. The gti's brakes are pretty potent, but the pedal gives very little feel so it's hard to kind of just brush off speed. On surfaces with grip like pennington or mineral wells you can just get on the brakes hard but at tms if your not very smooth it just makes the car skid.