Ethanol mix in N. TX.

[Titus]

Dallas morning news says E85 is coming to North Texas... Less scary, as it's an "option" at the pump. Kroger is the first retailer to offer it. It will carry a lower per gallon cost (which it should, since it has lower energy content).

Not likely we'll see any more than the 5-10% currently fouling our fuels mandated.

You can check HERE to see if you own a car that can run E85.






Here is a hint: the only Mazda listed is a truck.

[Dave04]

Here is a hint: the only Mazda listed is a truck.

Not a single Honda is on the list.... No E85 for me!

[Treibenschnell]

Not a single Honda is on the list.... No E85 for me!

Nor any VW's...

[Jiggerachi]

Huh...I was at a Chevron station in Coppell this evening & the pump had a new sticker on it that said "This gasoline could contain up to 10% of ethanol", or something to that effect. Didnt seem to have any option other that another gas station. It bothered me, but I was about to run out of gas.

Didnt notice any difference in driving on the way home.

[Bolix]

I was in Austin over the weekend visiting a friend of mine, and I guess they are already using E10 there and she said her mileage in her Jetta dropped to about 15-16. NOT GOOD!

[Mark52]

I was in Austin over the weekend visiting a friend of mine, and I guess they are already using E10 there and she said her mileage in her Jetta dropped to about 15-16. NOT GOOD!

Dats what I be talkin about NOT GOOD

[Treibenschnell]

So, theoritically, we'll be paying the same for the ethanol mix as we do the regular and should be ready to expect diminished returns?

[altiain]

So, theoritically, we'll be paying the same for the ethanol mix as we do the regular and should be ready to expect diminished returns?

No, we'll be paying more for E10 than we do for our current gasoline due to "potential supply side shortages" (i.e., big oil's excuse for raking in even greater profits next year) of ethanol.

You got the diminished returns part right, though.

Of course, this is all because we're phasing out a chemical additive in oxygenated gasoline that leaks into groundwater and causes cancer. A chemical mandated by the Clean Air Act. The air is great, just don't drink the water.

Doesn't it just make you sick? I could pick a group of ten-year olds at random that would govern this country more effectively than our current crop of stuffed suit morons. At least they're consistent in their abject stupidity.

[tailchaser]

Dats what I be talkin about NOT GOOD

You've been buying fuel with 5-10% Ethanol in it for years... No change in sight unless you buy all your fuel outside the EPA target area.

[joe.MIATA]

I could pick a group of ten-year olds at random that would govern this country more effectively than our current crop of stuffed suit morons. At least they're consistent in their abject stupidity.

FYI- MTBE has been around since the 90's. It took ten years to convince the bureaucracies to remove it.

[Billy Blaze]

anything to squeeze more dough out of us.

Any hopes of driving outta the metroplex to purchase gas without the ethenol mix?

[Mark52]

anything to squeeze more dough out of us.

Any hopes of driving outta the metroplex to purchase gas without the ethenol mix?

That's my plan, at least for the Miata, which is pretty much only for autocross, now. I wonder how far we'll have to go for the real thing?

[Sharpie]

If it ignites at different rates, is there any research about how it will effect oxygen sensors and catalytic converters?

[Kakkyo]

If it ignites at different rates, is there any research about how it will effect oxygen sensors and catalytic converters?

Agreed, the last thing that I'd like to hear is premature wear on O2 sensors and cats. I don't need things to cause unexpected expenditures as I am already bracing myself for the 60,000 overhaul on the Miata.

[Titus]

I was at a Texaco last night and notice nice shiny new stickers on all the pumps that say "contains up to 10% Ethanol". There was also a free pamphlet inside with FAQs on ethanol.

[tailchaser]

I was at a Texaco last night and notice nice shiny new stickers on all the pumps that say "contains up to 10% Ethanol". There was also a free pamphlet inside with FAQs on ethanol.

So did the pamphlet mention the part where Ethanol (or other oxygenates) are no longer federally mandated as of 5/5/2006?

[Titus]

So did the pamphlet mention the part where Ethanol (or other oxygenates) are no longer federally mandated as of 5/5/2006?

I didn't say I read the phamphlet, just that it was available.

[sammm]

I didn't say I read the phamphlet, just that it was available.

All those pesky words makes his head hurt.

[black roadster]

I haven't seen an decrease in mileage yet.

My bigger concern is what about 5-10-20 years from now? I have no plans of ever geting rid of my Miata. However, will I have trouble finding fuel in the far future?

[blackzx3_13]

I haven't seen an decrease in mileage yet.

My bigger concern is what about 5-10-20 years from now? I have no plans of ever geting rid of my Miata. However, will I have trouble finding fuel in the far future?

I say we take up a collection, and start our own refinerary.