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    As the SCCA has decided to support this class with a "common" national rule set with potential national class status by 2007, I suspect we'll see some interest in it.

    I think it's a great recruiting tool for Miata owners... I'm willing to wager that a certain emerald green Miata will wander over that way next year. Anyone thinking of playing in this class?

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    If they do it, I'm there.

    There are lot's of things I'd be able to do to my car that are not legal in Stock class... things like different springs, cold air intake, header, different seat (I think all -- or most -- of that stuff would be legal in STS2). These are things I want to do to my car for the street, but they'd currently take me out of my "lower-spending" class. Yes, I could go to CSP right now, but I don't want to try to spend that kind of money just to keep up .

    And I know the tire thing would be a bit of a wash -- I'm sure I'd still have a set of "racing tires". But they'd just be ones I could easily drive to the event on.

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    D'oh... at least that was until I read that 99+ Miatas are excluded... <sigh>

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    Yep, here's the email off of the ST2 mailing list form last night:

    The Solo Events Board met at the SCCA National Convention in Kansas
    City February 6th through 8th. Attending were SEB Chairman Colan
    Arnold, board members Chris Dorsey, Mari Clements, Ron Bauer, Andy
    Hollis, Marcus Merideth, Mark Sipe, and Mark Sirota. Also attending
    were Tasha Goodale, Howard Duncan and Doug Gill of the National
    Staff, and BOD liaison Bob Introne.

    During this meeting, the SEB discussed and approved the addition of
    two supplemental classes to National Tour events; STS2 and STU. These
    classes reflect what the SEB envisions to be the continued growth of
    the Street Touring category, and are being evaluated in conjunction
    with evaluation of the feasibility of combining several less-
    subscribed classes and of restructuring some less-subscribed
    preparation categories.
    Reflecting the success of the ST concept both nationally and
    regionally, the two supplemental classes were developed as the next
    logical steps in the progression of this category. Variants of one
    or both of these classes are already being offered in several regions
    across the country.

    STS2 will follow the STS rule set, but the eligible cars will be
    restricted to two-seaters with engine displacements of 1.8 liters or
    less. This class will provide a home for a number of popular
    vehicles, including the Honda
    CRX and del Sol, Mazda RX7 (non-turbo, '79-'92) and Miata ('90-'97),
    Toyota MR2 ('85-'89), as well as other similar vehicles. STS
    category rules 14.1 to 14.10 apply. Further, as in STS, only
    original equipment viscous limited slip differentials are legal in
    STS-2. Excluded vehicles include Lotus (all), Mazda Miata (99+), and
    Toyota MR2 ('91-'95 and '00+).


    STU will follow the STX rule set, but will raise the displacement
    limit for otherwise STX-legal vehicles to 3.1 liters for forced
    induction and to unlimited displacement for natural aspiration. To
    accommodate the greater power of these vehicles, restrictions on
    wheel width are lifted and the maximum tire width will be increased
    to 275 for front or rear wheel drive vehicles (but will remain at 245
    for AWD vehicles). Other than these limited exceptions, the STX rule
    set as described in 14.11 applies. This class extends the Street
    Touring concept to cars including the Audi S4, BMW M3 (E36),
    Chevrolet Camaro, Dodge Neon SRT-4, Ford Mustang, Mazda RX-8,
    Mitsubishi Lancer Evo. 8, Pontiac Firebird, Pontiac GTO, Subaru WRX
    STi, Volvo S60 R, and Toyota Supra. Excluded vehicles include the
    E46 M3 and the E39 M5.

    In conjunction with the planned evolution of this category and of the
    sport as a whole, these two supplemental classes will not be
    considered for full national status until 2007. One or both classes
    could then potentially be recommended for full national status
    provided that rules stability is attained, member participation is
    strong, and the classes continue to reflect the needs of the current
    enthusiast market.
    Not only are the '99+ Miatas excluded, but it looks like all of the '94-'97 Miatas might have been excluded accidentally (1.8L displacement limit - the "1.8L" Miata motor is actually 1839cc ). Either way, those with Torsens have been specifically excluded.

    Too bad - it seems like the SEB has single-handedly excluded 50-75+% of the potential STS-2 participants with their shortsighted approach to the rules, something we've been discussing on the Street Touring 2 mailing list for the last few months.

    Feel free to send your letters of dissapointment to the Solo Events Board directly at [email protected]. I've already sent mine.

    Iain
    (who would have been very interested in running STS-2 next season, but now will just go back to CSP like I'd originally planned.)
    Iain

    "We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing." - George Bernard Shaw

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    STS-2 sounds like where I really wanna be and assuming my '97 will be allowed under the displacement rulling I might just run it. CSP is way too competetive for my POS racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDmiata
    my POS racer.
    Now hold on just a minute BigDmiata ! :P

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    sorry, I should have clarified that with Piece Of Sh!t racer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDmiata
    sorry, I should have clarified that with Piece Of Sh!t racer.
    That's funny. I just figured that's what Black92C's POS stood for too! :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammm
    Quote Originally Posted by BigDmiata
    sorry, I should have clarified that with Piece Of Sh!t racer.
    That's funny. I just figured that's what Black92C's POS stood for too! :o
    I have a Kid so we came up with the more PC version since the car is regularly refereed to as the POS Racer around the house. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by tailchaser
    D'oh... at least that was until I read that 99+ Miatas are excluded... <sigh>
    Well, ain't that peachy. Clever of them to start yet another class that we can't run in.
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    I suppose the SCCA is worried about Miata's dominating -- or being a dominant force in -- another class. I mean, we own CS (Ok, I know those pesky MR-S's are out there) and we are a constant threat in ES, CSP, and now DSP (with Spec Miatas). Add to that our strong showings in Tire Class and near invincibility in Novice Class (at least locally), and I'm guessing people are tired of seeing our little cars.

    Well, we can't help it if all those other people picked the wrong car to compete in.

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