Taken into custody?

[randy7601]

In Genesis, it's right after the baseball reference... "In the Big Inning..."

And the first car mentioned in the Bible?

God drove them out of the garden in His Fury.

[Treibenschnell]

And apparently G-d's name is Art...

"Our Father, who is Art, in Heaven..."

[Billy Blaze]

ok, I guess I will answer this...

"One thing" sets our document (The Constitution) apart from other government documents in other countries, that is that our document is written to say that our rights are given by God therfore can not be taken away by man.
In other countries your rights are granted by man so are subject to change by man.
The constitution doesn't say that God says that we can carry guns everywhere but does say that we have the "Right" to keep and bear arms without exception to when where or who we ALL do.
The main reason behind this line of thinking is those very smart men knew that we would have to defend our rights. rights to property, etc.
also that if a government tried too much to control the people who they "serve" we would have the means to protect ourselves from them.
They didn't want another tyrant or tyranical government.

Hope this helps. :)

[altiain]

ok, I guess I will answer this...

"One thing" sets our document (The Constitution) apart from other government documents in other countries, that is that our document is written to say that our rights are given by God therfore can not be taken away by man.
In other countries your rights are granted by man so are subject to change by man.

So let me get this straight, a man says that your rights are given by God and cannot be taken away by man.

The constitution doesn't say that God says that we can carry guns everywhere but does say that we have the "Right" to keep and bear arms without exception to when where or who we ALL do.

Hope this helps. :)

Actually, the 2nd Amendment to the United States Constitution reads:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Contrary to what some people would have you believe, that's not exactly a blanket authorization to carry weapons wherever and whenever you choose. Besides, there are exceptions - for example, you can't carry weapons in certain places, such as schools. Nor can convicted felons legally possess weapons. There are exceptions.

There are also gross misinterpretations. But that's politics, so we'll leave that discussion for another board.

[onething]

I wrote and editted this three times. Fear of Thor's Hammer dictates that I remember this is not the place to debate political opinions.

[Titus]

I wrote and editted this three times. Fear of Thor's Hammer dictates that I remember this is not the place to debate political opinions.

Yep... I'm surprised that all of the political and religious talk in this thread have not gotten it locked by now.

[Billy Blaze]

thanks TC for letting this conversation happen.

I will step away from the political soapbox.

[Nexus Flux]

Yep... I'm surprised that all of the political and religious talk in this thread have not gotten it locked by now.

Is it OK as long as you use the [opinion] blah blah [/opinion] tag like Bean did in another thread? J/K

Thanks TC

[MadMonkey]

Speaking of this... I need to go to a gun show and expand my arsenal a bit

[Monkey of Death]

Alright, my 2 cents... (about what my opinion is worth anyway )

They broke into his home and stuck a gun in his face. They got what they deserved.

BUT...

I would be surprised if he doesn't get arrested. At the very least, I suspect he will get sued. I don't agree with it, but it stands a good chance of happening. And here's why (the following is my understanding of Texas law and should not be referenced or relied upon by anyone; living, dead, imagined or otherwise ). TX law lets you off the hook for using deadly force if your life, or the life of someone else is in immediate danger and, as such, a reasonable person in a similar situation would fear for their life. They had already left the house. They were, in effect, retreating (this is the exact word the "poor victim's" lawyer will use in court, proving that you are a callous, cold blooded killer who shot someone as they realized the error of their ways and were undoubtedly speeding off to church to get right with the Lord 'cause he'd alwys been a good boy who wanted to grow up to be a doctor so he could help little children blah blah blah...). Legally, this guy is . Maybe the law won't prosecute him, but if the victim's families go after him in civil court, he's boned. Right or wrong (wrong, IMO), that's the way the law is set up. Pretty much no matter what they do to you, if they are 'retreating' and the 'life threatening danger' is over, you can't legally shoot. Once again the law trumps common sense

Grrrrrrrrrrrr!

[Treibenschnell]

Don't forget... the fella that came out running was also involved with the drug trade. So it wasn't necessarily a good guy shooting at a bad guy. It was more like a bad guy getting shot at by another bad guy... possibly hurting bystanders. It was a drug house that was being robbed by other druggies...

[Monkey of Death]

Don't forget... the fella that came out running was also involved with the drug trade. So it wasn't necessarily a good guy shooting at a bad guy. It was more like a bad guy getting shot at by another bad guy... possibly hurting bystanders. It was a drug house that was being robbed by other druggies...

Yeah, I left off the part of reckless endangerment by shooting at a car that's driving away. But I know the average attention span of this board. In fact... Ohhhh, a puppy! What a cute puppy!! Puppy, puppy, puppy...

[Monkey of Death]

Wait, where was I?

Oh, right...

Is there more info on this story? The link says,

Police found small amounts of marijuana during their investigation, and were looking into whether the events were drug-related.

"Small amounts" doesn't necessarily mean drug trade (although the robbers could have made off with his stash). It could mean he has a delinquent teenager or something similar. Had it been a real amount, the headline would have read "Police Make Major Drug Bust After Shootout. Promotions For All."

Not arguing your point (heck, I'm all for letting the bad guys shoot each other ), but wondered if you had more info on the story.

[jrj512]

Speaking of this... I need to go to a gun show and expand my arsenal a bit

Or just use the money to pay for an AX race.

[MadMonkey]

Or just use the money to pay for an AX race.

I can't buy a decent gun for $25..

[Treibenschnell]

...but wondered if you had more info on the story.

We do... but sometimes the popo will ask us not to divulge certain info while they're working a case.

[cam76034]

We do... but sometimes the popo will ask us not to divulge certain info while they're working a case.

Too late!

Bean spilled the beans.

[CraiginTX]

We do... but sometimes the popo will ask us not to divulge certain info while they're working a case.

All you had to do was watch the story. Not exactly west Plano - not even an upper-middle class neighborhood. Wait, is that a new Escalade and a Benz in the drive?

According to the coverage I saw, "the robbers knew there was a large quantity of cash in the house." And the victim came out of the house shooting at the robbers with an "AK-47 type assault rifle."

Doesn't exactly smell like the poor innocent victim to me...

[cam76034]

What? Doesn't every American household have an AK-47 or two laying around?

[Treibenschnell]

Doesn't exactly smell like the poor innocent victim to me...

Exactly...