Reply With QuoteLlI'll be there if my roll bar is in the car in time.
NASA TT March 13/14 @ MSR-C
I'll be there (I paid so I'm committed). I'm sure KenO will be there too.
Anyone else going?
LlI'll be there if my roll bar is in the car in time.
I will be there in TTA or B depending on the number on the number of people. Are you running TT or HPDE, class?
M3 is always the answer.
HPDE3 is what I'm signed up in, but I'd be TT-S
HPDE3/4. I will try to remember to sign up tonight.
TXMC: Drinkin, shootin, racin!
TTB so my lame track record stays for another year. :)Originally Posted by ken o
schedule released:
NASA TEXAS LONE STAR CHALLENGER 2 at MSR Cresson
Friday, March 12, 2010 - MSRC - Happy Hour 5:00pm-6:00pm - Hosted by http://www.motorsportranch.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
4:00 PM - 8:00 PM REGISTRATION OPEN
6:00 PM - 8:00 PM TECH OPEN
Saturday, March 13, 2010
6:30 AM GATES OPEN- $10 spectator admission per weekend (one day or two). Children 12/under free.
6:30 AM REGISTRATION/TECH OPEN
Subject to change-Please be aware of the groups running before you. Listen to the PA announcements. We can run ahead or behind time.
PRACTICE SESSIONS: Any blocking, racing activity, spins, off-course excursions or body contact will be black flagged and possible penalities assessed
Start End ET
7:00 AM 7:15 AM 0:15 Series Directors Meeting - Drivers Lounge
7:00 AM 7:45 AM 0:45 Comms, ERC & Corner Worker Meeting: Immediately Go to Stations; Course Check 7:50
7:00 AM 7:15 AM 0:15 Group C Drivers Meeting: Grid
7:00 AM 7:45 AM 0:45 Track Drive/Walk Around: Meet at Grid: Mandatory for Groups A, B & Comp License Students
7:15 AM 7:35 AM 0:20 Drivers Meeting for Racing Groups -- MANDATORY -- Driver's Lounge
8:00 AM 8:30 AM 0:30 GROUPS A, B & Comp License - Meeting and Classroom 1rivers Lounge
8:00 AM 8:20 AM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 1
8:20 AM 8:35 AM 0:15 Groups E & F PRACTICE
8:35 AM 8:40 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
8:40 AM 8:55 AM 0:15 Groups D & G PRACTICE
8:55 AM 9:15 AM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 1
9:15 AM 9:35 AM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 1
9:35 AM 9:40 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
9:40 AM 9:55 AM 0:15 Group E QUALIFICATION
9:55 AM 10:15 AM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 2
10:15 AM 10:30 AM 0:15 Group F QUALIFICATION
10:30 AM 10:35 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
10:35 AM 10:45 AM 0:10 Group D QUALIFICATION
10:45 AM 10:55 AM 0:10 Group G QUALIFICATION
10:55 AM 11:00 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
11:00 AM 11:20 AM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 2
11:20 AM 11:40 AM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 2
11:40 AM 12:30 PM 0:50 LUNCH BREAK (BETWEEN 11:40-12:30 PM; RESUME SESSIONS 12:30PM)
12:30 PM 12:50 PM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 3
12:50 PM 1:15 PM 0:25 Group E RACE 1 - Rolling Start Based on Qualifying Times
1:15 PM 1:40 PM 0:25 Group F RACE 1 - Rolling Start Based on Qualifying Times
1:40 PM 1:45 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
1:45 PM 2:15 PM 0:30 Group D RACE 1 - Standing Start Based on Qualifying Times
2:15 PM 2:40 PM 0:25 Group G RACE 1 - Rolling Start Based on Qualifying Times
2:40 PM 2:45 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
2:45 PM 3:05 PM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 3
3:05 PM 3:25 PM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 3
3:25 PM 3:40 PM 0:15 Group C TRIAL 4
3:40 PM 4:00 PM 0:20 Group E RACE 2 - Rolling Start: Grid based on Finishing order from Race 1
4:00 PM 4:20 PM 0:20 Group F RACE 2 - Rolling Split Start: Grid based on Finishing order from Race 1
4:20 PM 4:25 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
4:25 PM 4:45 PM 0:20 Group D RACE 2 - Inverted Rolling Start: Based on Finishing order from Race 1
4:45 PM 5:10 PM 0:25 Group G RACE 2 - Rolling Start: Grid based on Finishing order from Race 1
5:10 PM 5:15 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
5:15 PM 5:30 PM 0:15 Group B LAPPING 4
5:30 PM 5:45 PM 0:15 Group A LAPPING 4
5:45 PM 6:05 PM 0:20 DOWN TIME: Tows, Rescue, Track Clean-up
Worker & Racer Party Hosted by Team MER @ Their New Shop
Sunday, March 14, 2010
7:00 AM GATES OPEN- $10 spectator admission per weekend (one day or two). Children 12/under free.
7:30 AM REGISTRATION/TECH OPEN
Start End ET
7:20 AM 7:50 AM 0:30 Comms, ERC & Corner Worker Meeting: Immediately Go to Stations; Course Check 7:50 AM
7:30 AM 7:50 AM 0:20 Sunrise Fellowship - Drivers Lounge
8:00 AM 8:20 AM 0:20 Drivers Meeting for Racing Groups -- MANDATORY -- Driver's Lounge
8:00 AM 8:20 AM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 5
8:20 AM 8:40 AM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 5
8:40 AM 9:00 AM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 5
9:00 AM 9:05 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
9:05 AM 9:20 AM 0:15 Group E QUALIFICATION
9:20 AM 9:35 AM 0:15 Group F QUALIFICATION
9:35 AM 9:45 AM 0:10 Group D QUALIFICATION
9:45 AM 9:55 AM 0:10 Group G QUALIFICATION
9:55 AM 10:00 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
10:00 AM 10:20 AM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 6
10:20 AM 10:40 AM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 6
10:40 AM 11:00 AM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 6
11:00 AM 11:05 AM 0:05 Track Clean Up
11:05 AM 11:50 AM 0:45 Group E RACE 3 - Rolling Start Based on Qualifying Times
11:50 AM 12:50 PM 1:00 LUNCH BREAK (BETWEEN 11:50-12:50 PM; RESUME SESSIONS 12:50PM)
12:50 PM 1:35 PM 0:45 Group F RACE 3 - Rolling Split Start Based on Qualifying Times
1:35 PM 2:05 PM 0:30 Group D RACE 3 - Standing Start Based on Qualifying Times
2:05 PM 2:30 PM 0:25 Group G RACE 3 - Rolling Start Based on Qualifying Times
2:30 PM 2:35 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
2:35 PM 2:55 PM 0:20 Group C TRIAL 7
2:55 PM 3:15 PM 0:20 Group A LAPPING 7
3:15 PM 3:35 PM 0:20 Group B LAPPING 7
3:35 PM 3:40 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
3:40 PM 4:05 PM 0:25 Group G RACE 4 - Rolling Start: Grid based on Finishing order from Race 3
4:05 PM 4:25 PM 0:20 Group D RACE 4 - Inverted Rolling Start: Based on Finishing order from Race 3
4:25 PM 4:30 PM 0:05 Track Clean Up
4:30 PM 4:45 PM 0:15 Group C TRIAL 8
4:45 PM 5:00 PM 0:15 Groups A & B LAPPING 8
5:00 PM 6:00 PM 1:00 DOWN TIME: Tows, Rescue, Track Clean-up
Group A HPDE 1&2
Group B HPDE 3&4,
Group C Time Trials
Group D AIX, AI, CMC-2, CMC
Group E Spec Miata, Showroom Spec Miata
Group F SRX7, Performance Touring C-F, Honda Challenge 4-5, Legends (LP,LM,LS), Spec E30, 944 Spec, GTS-1
Group G Super Touring 1-3, Super Unlimited, GTS 2-5 and U, Performance Touring A-B, Honda Challenge 1-3, Factory Five Challenge, Spec 3
Dayum! 10 dollars to watch and no grandstands to sit in? Screw that.
In for Saturday, group B
i don't want this to turn into another rollbar discussion, but i have never seen anybody pay $10 to watch. never ever. since 2006.
Me too.
How do you know when to switch from HPDE to TT? I'd like to run a faster pace than I ran last week in HPDE (the last session was fast though), but I don't have a cage and somewhat expect to get tapped and punted in the TT groups.
Thoughts?
TXMC: Drinkin, shootin, racin!
When you want to compete rather than drive. They don't push you to TT, you have to ask to be checked off to get your TT license so that you can actually compete in the timed events.
What level of banging into each other and flipping on the roof should I expect? Is it dumb to take this car into TT without a cage or even expect to drive it home? How often do you TT guys end up at the body shop? I know we're not racing for position, but I'm not sure if I should expect to get pushed off track, bumped around, or pitted/punted for track position?
TXMC: Drinkin, shootin, racin!
I've not done a TT, but since you're trying to get ONE good lap for the day/weekend I can't see why you'd ever need to trade paint. That's not fast.
What about slower cars playing games with blocking and running the faster cars off line?I've not done a TT, but since you're trying to get ONE good lap for the day/weekend I can't see why you'd ever need to trade paint. That's not fast
TXMC: Drinkin, shootin, racin!
paging Ken-O
I only have one TT event with NASA. Everyone was very well behaved. Some passes were open (no point). Some people gave me a point. The first session was grid as you want. After they had lap times we were grid by times. This worked well. Only complaint is some fast cars are slower in corners. Just give yourself a gap. You are not racing for position only for time. Toss out a lap and then make a run at it.
NO ONE wants contact. The many of the cars in TT are driven to the event. I am not racing with a sponsor. I will give up the lap if it looks like contact. If you see someone coming up behind you hold the race line and let them go around or point them by.
As in all events safety is number one. To move to TT you should be comfortable with cars passing you, passing cars, possibly running in close proximity to another car, and know what to do should something go wrong.
I think if someone was playing blocking games or trying to run you off line they would be booted. But remember the car being passed has the right to hold the race line.
M3 is always the answer.
Thanks Ken, I'm going to request a check-ride so I can run TT next time.
TXMC: Drinkin, shootin, racin!
You can get a check ride and move to TT the same day...
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