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    Keith Tanner has finished the build of his Martini themed Miata for competition in the Targa Newfoundland... It really turned out nice!


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    I like it. I was surprised that it is not FI since Flyin' is sponsoring it.

    Why Martini? I may be a little slower today . . .
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    He's using an FM stroker motor. 200hp should be pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onething View Post
    I like it. I was surprised that it is not FI since Flyin' is sponsoring it.
    It has to do with the race requirements... the most appropriate class for the Miata is "Late Modern, Modified Small" where forced induction is not allowed.
    Quote Originally Posted by onething View Post
    Why Martini? I may be a little slower today . . .
    I think he just always like the Martini Racing paint jobs.

    Edit: Yep.... here is a comment about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpie View Post
    He's using an FM stroker motor. 200hp should be pretty good.
    Yep... nothing like a high compression 2 liter motor. That is the engine I would like to build for a Locost some day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Yep... nothing like a high compression 2 liter motor. That is the engine I would like to build for a Locost some day.
    If I wanted a small displacement, normally aspirated engine I think I'd start with an SR20 or F20C before I started with a Miata motor, YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    If I wanted a small displacement, normally aspirated engine I think I'd start with an SR20 or F20C before I started with a Miata motor, YMMV.
    I'd have figured you'd go for a 13B or a 20B.

    That is being that you're a wanker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altiain View Post
    If I wanted a small displacement, normally aspirated engine I think I'd start with an SR20 or F20C before I started with a Miata motor, YMMV.
    Perhaps, but they would not be right for my situation...

    1) I only have experience working on my Miata. Knowing that a locost build is nearly over my head to begin with, I would be best off going with the system that I know.
    2) There are several kits out there that are designed to use the Miata drivetrain. Again... knowing that the build is nearly over my head to begin with, I am best off avoiding anything that would require additional engineering to make work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    ... nothing like a high compression 2 liter motor. That is the engine I would like to build for a Locost some day.
    Not an FE3? It's not as well supported as a BP, but if you're in the mood to fabricate a Locost, some additional grinding and welding shouldn't scare you away.

    Kia Motor + B2200 transmission case + Miata 5speed guts + FC RX7 diff and housing + aftermarket ECU and sensors = great Locost drivetrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modernbeat View Post
    if you're in the mood to fabricate a Locost, some additional grinding and welding shouldn't scare you away.
    Sorry... not that hardcore... The first requirement in my build is that it is from a Kit. The first question I ask about each kit (besides price) is how complete is it. The second question is "Does it require any welding?" There are 3 kits in my radar right now, all based off of Miata donors. There is one that is VERY complete, but expensive. There is a second that is very affordable, but not nearly complete. Right now I am leaning toward the 3rd one that is somewhere between the 2 on both counts.

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    Hmm...I'll be the first to admit I don't like the way it looks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Sorry... not that hardcore... The first requirement in my build is that it is from a Kit. The first question I ask about each kit (besides price) is how complete is it. The second question is "Does it require any welding?" There are 3 kits in my radar right now, all based off of Miata donors. There is one that is VERY complete, but expensive. There is a second that is very affordable, but not nearly complete. Right now I am leaning toward the 3rd one that is somewhere between the 2 on both counts.
    The only welding differences to get a FE engine to sit where a BP engine was designed to go would be the intake manifold, the coolant lines (possibly), and the engine mounts.

    FWIW, I'll be selling a Locost once the D-Prepared car starts coming together. It's Gene Young's old car. Set up for D-Mod, but with a bike engine. Now legal for B-Mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miataspeedracer View Post
    Hmm...I'll be the first to admit I don't like the way it looks.
    ditto

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2K Miata View Post
    ditto
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    Quote Originally Posted by miataspeedracer View Post
    Hmm...I'll be the first to admit I don't like the way it looks.
    Keep in mind that a good deal more of the white areas will be filled in by numbers and more sponsor logos.

    Also, out of curiosity... Are you not a fan of the Martini livery, or are you just not a fan of this Miata interpretation of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus View Post
    Keep in mind that a good deal more of the white areas will be filled in by numbers and more sponsor logos.

    Also, out of curiosity... Are you not a fan of the Martini livery, or are you just not a fan of this Miata interpretation of it?
    I don't like the "interpretation." The stripes are not very harmonious and don't work well with the overall shape of the Miata, especially at the nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailchaser
    No, you're the second.
    Semantic Man strikes again!

    Didn't Martini livery have not quite so much white? Maybe I'm thinking of the Gulf GT40s...

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmenace View Post
    Semantic Man strikes again!

    Didn't Martini livery have not quite so much white? Maybe I'm thinking of the Gulf GT40s...
    I did a search and it seams to vary...






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    With all due respect to Mike Myers, Sean Connery, etc... if it's not Lancia, it's craaaaap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tailchaser View Post
    With all due respect to Mike Myers, Sean Connery, etc... if it's not Lancia, it's craaaaap.
    Erm... I'd say Martini Racing is more synonymous with Porsches, but that's just me.

    BTW, I dig the silver Martini livery on that 917.
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