Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by Titus
I could tell you, but I would have to kill you...
I can't talk about it until after the event.
What are they charging for the use of the lot?
I could tell you, but I would have to kill you...
I can't talk about it until after the event.
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
I just registered.
On the track, I am fearless.
If you were as slow as me, you wouldn't be afraid either.
1994 M Edition
CSP 67
WOW, the lot looks promising! And only 3 light poles to dodge? Can't wait!
What's left of a '96 Miata with stock clutch.
My car exceeds my driving ability. That's the only possible explanation.
I'm in.
We can hit the pool at the Sheraton after.
As long as you don't hit the pool DURING the event.
You aren't driving James Bond's lotus......
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
With me, you never know.As long as you don't hit the pool DURING the event.
You aren't driving James Bond's lotus......
Ain't that the truth!
What's left of a '96 Miata with stock clutch.
My car exceeds my driving ability. That's the only possible explanation.
bump bump......any of you kids want a co-driver/tire warmer? :)
I need a ride :)
David Hedderick
Houston, TX
92 Miata SE; 02 RSX-S; 01 Boxsturd; 05 STI
I have been asked for this before, so I thought I would post it here for y'all.
This is the correlation table for SCCA to PCA classes. We tried to keep the class numbers down, so it was more competitive and we didn't give out "attendence trophys".
SCCA Class PCA Class Super Stock 7 A Stock 6 B Stock 5 C Stock 3 D Stock 2 E Stock 2 F Stock 1 G Stock 1 H Stock 1
The way this works for PCA is... you find the class your car would run if it were bone stock. Then you progress it based on the progression table.
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The questions in the progression table are:
1. DOT tires with less than 120 (corrected) treadwear =1
2. Non DOT tires =2 (Note 1 and 2 are exclusive)
3. Weight reduction of more than 5% =1
4. Weight reduction of more than 10% =2 (Note 3 and 4 are exclusive)
5 Horsepower increase of more than 10% =1
6. Suspension modification of 3 or more of the items below = 1
A. Non Stock shock absorbers
B. Non Stock Springs (coil springs or torsion bars)
C. Anti-Roll bars (added or revised from stock)
D. Plastic or metal suspension bushings.
E. Adjustable Camber plate
F. Strut Brace.
Add all the points to your base class and that is the class you will run.
Looking forward to seeing y'all out there!!!!!
Last edited by ClayPerrine; 08-01-2008 at 09:07 AM.
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
You might want to amend item "1" to 140 treadwear. There are a lot of street tires out there that are under the 200 treadwear rating and I'm assuming you're trying to discriminate between true street tires and DOT legal race tires.
Once again, thanks for trying out these different lots this year.
Thomas
V-to-the-Dub
Clay, look forward to seeing you again. Been a while.
What do you guys want as far as class designation on the car? Or do you still use a specific number for each car (no duplicate numbers in different classes)?
Please see if the following is right.
If my 1992 Miata would be SCCA E Stock, then due to SCCA STS2 modifications, I add points to PCA class #2 as following:
One for tires, one for HP and one for suspension mods, a total of 3, so I wind up in PCA class #5?
Is that right?
Same place as Mark (SCCA CSP)?
1. DOT tires with less than 200 treadwear =1 YES BUT REAL STREET TIRES WITH 180 RATING, NOT DOT R COMPOUND. SO IN PCA, REAL STREET TIRES, ALBEIT HIGH PERFORMANCE ONES, RUN AGAINST R COMPS. NOTE THAT SCCA USES 140 AS A CUT OFF POINT.
2. Non DOT tires =2 (Note 1 and 2 are exclusive) NO
3. Weight reduction of more than 5% =1 NO, HAS TO BE STOCK IN SCCA EXCEPT FOR WEIGHT OF STOCK EXHAUST SYSTEM V. AFTERMARKET, SEAT ALLOWANCE (16#) AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN SUSPENSION OR WHEEL WEIGHTS
4. Weight reduction of more than 10% =2 (Note 3 and 4 are exclusive) NO
5 Horsepower increase of more than 10% =1 MAYBE THAT MUCH WITH HEADERS & INTAKE BUT STOCK INTERNALS, SO GO WITH YES
6. Suspension modification of 3 or more of the items below = 1
A. Non Stock shock absorbers YES
B. Non Stock Springs (coil springs or torsion bars) YES
C. Anti-Roll bars (added or revised from stock) YES
D. Plastic or metal suspension bushings. YES
E. Adjustable Camber plate
F. Strut Brace.
Last edited by nealb; 08-01-2008 at 07:18 AM.
2009 MX-5 STR and track toy
2003 Z06 -- Not a Miata, but 3200# and 400 RWHP is fun
OTM -- 2012 Sierra, 2016 Impala (Appliances)
And, I know a guy with a 1988 Firebird that would run in Class 4.
But, this is all for fun. I'm happy to NOT be running OJ.
On the track, I am fearless.
If you were as slow as me, you wouldn't be afraid either.
1994 M Edition
CSP 67
You might want to amend item "1" to 140 treadwear. There are a lot of street tires out there that are under the 200 treadwear rating and I'm assuming you're trying to discriminate between true street tires and DOT legal race tires.
Once again, thanks for trying out these different lots this year.
The limit for treadwear was based on SCCA values. And I can't change it without going to the rules committee and even then it would be NEXT year before it would take effect.
Thanks for the input. We want to make this fun for eveyone.
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
Neil... Saw you registered last night. Glad you are coming out to play with us.
Yes, we use individual numbers for the cars, up to 999 so we don't think we are going to duplicate numbers.
As for your class... you ignore any SCCA class changes. Use just the SCCA stock class.
Example. Your car is E stock. So you start in PCA class 2.
I screwed up and typoed the translation from the PCA site, and you are correct, it is lists as 120 treadwear on the sheet. So your 180 treadwear tires don't move you a class.
Now add the HP mods (one class level) and the suspension mods (one class level) and you will be in Class 4.
That means you are running against me instead of Betty (She actually wants me to put you in class 10)
And for everyone's information, we do designate non-Porsche cars with a X after the class. It's for our year end scoring only,so don't worry about it too much.
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
Hey Clay Perrine do you have to register online? I'll be coming off a week of family fun (vacation) and not a 100% certain we will actually be home in time to make this event. But if I am in town I definatly would like to go!
TIA
Nope. you can show up the day of the event and run. We don't require pre-registration, but it will cost you a little more $$ and you will only be able to get a number that no one else has reserved.
Clay Perrine
Porsche Club of America, Maverick Region Autocross Chair.
[email protected]
“It’s Better to Wear Out than to Rust Out!”
Take your laptop with you so you can register while on the road. Most hotels now offer internet access. How else did you plan to keep up with the MME board?
Do tell. Anything between 120 and 180 in 14" or 15"? I've been out of the loop.
Oops. Yoko AD07, RE-01, Direzza Z1 for starters...
Last edited by redmenace; 08-01-2008 at 11:51 AM. Reason: google, duh
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